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Re: The Nightingale - OOC
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:36 pm
by ewancummins
Le Noir Faineant wrote:Dis gonna be guddd.
Oh yeah
SNAP INTO A SLIM JIM
Re: The Nightingale - OOC
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:48 pm
by Zilfer
ewancummins wrote:Zilfer wrote:The cane's in a defensive position not a hostile position.... though that didn't help Ammanas huh? Guess Otto hasn't taken basic fighting to know body language. It helps for being a mind reader.
I guess you PCs didn't take 'basic common sense' to know when not to provoke a fight he isn't going to win.? It helps for not getting killed.
Seriously, though-
Even jumping in to defend/rescue Ammanas is a
hostile action.
Physically interfering with the execution of justice and the operation of lawful authority is a crime.
Welcome to Darkon, dude.

lol they actually have a feat for that in some games like shadowrun. Though what 'provokes' is clearly up to the other party for miscommunication. Hell, bowing or giving a funny look could be seen by as a hostile action to someone.
Not that either one of our opinions is correct. Your's is correct in this situation since it coincides with the DM which is the law of the game. My opinion is that a defensive posture is not an action that commits you to violence. Buuuuut that's just me

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Alright! Raf's back! Lets see how it turns out.

Re: The Nightingale - OOC
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:57 pm
by ewancummins
Zilfer wrote:ewancummins wrote:Zilfer wrote:The cane's in a defensive position not a hostile position.... though that didn't help Ammanas huh? Guess Otto hasn't taken basic fighting to know body language. It helps for being a mind reader.
I guess you PCs didn't take 'basic common sense' to know when not to provoke a fight he isn't going to win.? It helps for not getting killed.
Seriously, though-
Even jumping in to defend/rescue Ammanas is a
hostile action.
Physically interfering with the execution of justice and the operation of lawful authority is a crime.
Welcome to Darkon, dude.

lol they actually have a feat for that in some games like shadowrun. Though what 'provokes' is clearly up to the other party for miscommunication. Hell, bowing or giving a funny look could be seen by as a hostile action to someone.
Not that either one of our opinions is correct. Your's is correct in this situation since it coincides with the DM which is the law of the game. My opinion is that a defensive posture is not an action that commits you to violence. Buuuuut that's just me

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Alright! Raf's back! Lets see how it turns out.

Yup.
As the game develops, more of Otto's personality may come out in play.
He has reasons. And, no, he's not a berserker.

Re: The Nightingale - OOC
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:59 pm
by Zilfer
Could have fooled me, Barbarian.

Re: The Nightingale - OOC
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:06 pm
by ewancummins
Zilfer wrote:Could have fooled me, Barbarian.

FYI- he's not bellowing, dancing around, grunting, etc.
I deliberately used periods and not exclamation points to suggest that his voice remained level-- firm and blunt in tone, but not shouting or acting angry.
Re: The Nightingale - OOC
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:12 pm
by Zilfer
Lol.
So an educated barbarian.

Re: The Nightingale - OOC
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:31 pm
by ewancummins
Zilfer wrote:Lol.
So an educated barbarian.

Ever see the 80s films with, who was it, Ator?
A-Tor?
Re: The Nightingale - OOC
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:32 pm
by Trike
Hmmmm, common sense doesn't really play into this situation. Even if I knew that Otto's weapon could kill most 1st level characters with one hit, I still would have jumped to defend Ammanas. It's in character for Nicodemus. That's all I need to feel comfortable.
And in an apparent battle between two Darkonese officials (I understood that both the Legate and Ammanas were from the same order of priests) Nicodemus was obviously going to side with the character that had proven he was trying to help the people through the night. Not the guy whose group is leading a little girl around tied with a rope around her neck.
I don't see where any of us actually roleplayed poorly, or roleplayed foolishly. We all just roleplayed. No harm there.
Re: The Nightingale - OOC
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:34 pm
by Trike
Never saw Ator. But it will be on my Netflix tonight if they have a copy.
If you want to see real barbarian cheese, watch this:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092615/
True barbarians!
Re: The Nightingale - OOC
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:38 pm
by ewancummins
Trike wrote:Hmmmm, common sense doesn't really play into this situation. Even if I knew that Otto's weapon could kill most 1st level characters with one hit, I still would have jumped to defend Ammanas. It's in character for Nicodemus. That's all I need to feel comfortable.
And in an apparent battle between two Darkonese officials (I understood that both the Legate and Ammanas were from the same order of priests) Nicodemus was obviously going to side with the character that had proven he was trying to help the people through the night. Not the guy whose group is leading a little girl around tied with a rope around her neck.
I don't see where any of us actually roleplayed poorly, or roleplayed foolishly. We all just roleplayed. No harm there.
True, all true.
I edited that previous post to make it clear I was just ribbing Zilfer. He teased me about 'body language.' We've had some banter going.
For what it is worth, I (moi, the player, out of game) thought that Nicodemus acted
heroically. His actions seem in character. He's also a foreigner, yes? So maybe he doesn't realize how things work in Darkon, doesn't know the hierarchy, although he's probably learning fast.
Varian, earlier in the thread, used common sense and fled. But he died.

Re: The Nightingale - OOC
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:42 pm
by Trike
Yeah, when I made up Nicodemus I was pushed into the Lawful Good alignment to become use the Detective prestige class. I had to decide if I was going to be the kind of lawful good that followed the local laws simply because they were the law or pursued a higher idea of orderly and benevolent actions.
Obviously, I felt that Ravenloft called for the latter. You couldn't keep a Lawful Good alignment untainted for long if you traveled into different despotic kingdoms were corruption and official violence were common place, you know?
Re: The Nightingale - OOC
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:48 pm
by ewancummins
Trike wrote:Yeah, when I made up Nicodemus I was pushed into the Lawful Good alignment to become use the Detective prestige class. I had to decide if I was going to be the kind of lawful good that followed the local laws simply because they were the law or pursued a higher idea of orderly and benevolent actions.
Obviously, I felt that Ravenloft called for the latter. You couldn't keep a Lawful Good alignment untainted for long if you traveled into different despotic kingdoms were corruption and official violence were common place, you know?
I agree.
The
good part is just as important as the
law part.
Re: The Nightingale - OOC
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:50 pm
by ewancummins
Trike wrote:Never saw Ator. But it will be on my Netflix tonight if they have a copy.
If you want to see real barbarian cheese, watch this:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092615/
True barbarians!
I'll check it out. Looks fun!
Re: The Nightingale - OOC
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:52 pm
by Trike
I'm glad you agreed on the alignment. I shuddered after I posted that last bit because I thought I might have started an alignment debate. I try to avoid those like bullets and boils.
Re: The Nightingale - OOC
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:06 pm
by Le Noir Faineant
That leaves Boiros and Caitlin, and Otto as the legate's enforcer.
Act smart.
You others, don't fret. If there's a way to continue the game afterwards, I'll give you the chance.