SkiBird wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2026 5:47 amSo maybe for Sithicus and the Soth/Inza thing ... instead of becoming co-darklords (it's been done before with Ivan/Ivana), or the 'I was released ' angle (like with Nathan Timothy), and instead of Inza dying/escaping ... we get a brand new version of what a domain looks like when a former Darklord gets reinstated? Perhaps they 'share' the title but at different times. By share, I kinda sorta mean 'are trapped by.' Meaning, if one is in the seat, that's it, they are darklord, and the other is not (as in, free to leave). But then, like every 6 months or so ... or as a result of the machinations of the other ... they have to switch.
Soth rules from his keep (once he deposes Azrael, naturally). Inza rules from her Chasm. When one is in charge, the other can travel the demiplane (or Soth could venture freely into his memory mirrors). Something like that. And then, when enough time has passed, these Darklords could be required to switch?
I think I'd like that. -- That said, I think we're gonna get something else: They're going to retell Soth's story from the get-go, declare the James Lowder novels non-canon, and do a renarration of the kind that "The Legend of Zelda" does every couple of years. Soth apparently was one of the BBEGs for the (flopped?) 2022 Dragonlance remake. (That I only know from online summaries.) Difficult to think things won't pick up from where that one leaves off.
Yeah, but this rotation thing can be a cool homebrew take for our Post-ToUD revamp! (Check the 780 thread)
Like, if we manage to figure out how Soth both came back to life and got evil again. Preferably in a way that doesn't belittle him being the living (well, undead) proof that darklords can redeem themselves.
"Not all that is violet is deadly, and not all that is deadly is violet." - "S", Gaz IV, page 13.
TheArcaneWeirdo wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2026 2:47 pmYeah, but this rotation thing can be a cool homebrew take for our Post-ToUD revamp! (Check the 780 thread)
Like, if we manage to figure out how Soth both came back to life and got evil again. Preferably in a way that doesn't belittle him being the living (well, undead) proof that darklords can redeem themselves.
Didn't find what I was perhaps supposed to find in the 780 thread. -- My general problem with this is, it's all background stuff. What of this do the players in an actual game get to see, to understand, to influence, or to control?
That doesn't mean I don't like the idea: Just saying, make this specific for in-game application. How can you let the PCs shine with this?
TheArcaneWeirdo wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2026 2:47 pmYeah, but this rotation thing can be a cool homebrew take for our Post-ToUD revamp! (Check the 780 thread)
Like, if we manage to figure out how Soth both came back to life and got evil again. Preferably in a way that doesn't belittle him being the living (well, undead) proof that darklords can redeem themselves.
Didn't find what I was perhaps supposed to find in the 780 thread. -- My general problem with this is, it's all background stuff. What of this do the players in an actual game get to see, to understand, to influence, or to control?
That doesn't mean I don't like the idea: Just saying, make this specific for in-game application. How can you let the PCs shine with this?
I think we're trying to figure out the background before we make an actual game out of it. It's a brainstorming thread, not a final product.
But maybe it's about time we move to the next stage...
"Not all that is violet is deadly, and not all that is deadly is violet." - "S", Gaz IV, page 13.
Compared to the Pathfinder minis that had mythos creatures many years back, these look good enough. I never personally used minis in my runs of Call of Cthulhu though, plus I only used the Mythos creatures in the Strange Aeons adventure path when running Pathfinder.
I muse of grim fates in The Lands of the Mists. You can see more here.
Honestly, that's really cool. While we're not always in agreement of how things should be, I really appreciate the shout-outs and the respect given to those that came before. I thank the team behind this book for that!
"A full set of (game) rules is so massively complicated that the only time they were all bound together in a single volume, they underwent gravitational collapse and became a black hole" (Adams)
Another thing I liked is they gave Azalin his old curse back, and retconned Hazlik to avoid copying him. I like to imagine that the two of them bumped into each other in a school corridor, and Azalin was like "one of us is going back home to change, and it ain't going to be me."
"You truly see what a person is made of, when you begin to slice into them" - Semirhage
"I am not mad, no matter what you're implying." - Litalia My DMGuild work!
alhoon wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2026 3:30 pm
Azalin is back and Hazlik is retconned?
Yep, they also gave Az an interesting new reaction power that lets him instantly learn any spell he manages to counterspell. But only for an hour, after which time it slips from his mind again.
alhoon wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2026 3:30 pm
Azalin is back and Hazlik is retconned?
Yep, they also gave Az an interesting new reaction power that lets him instantly learn any spell he manages to counterspell. But only for an hour, after which time it slips from his mind again.
Ouch. Thematic. Cruel, but thematic.
Now, on the other topic I forgot to address:
The FoS is addressed!? The Kargatane is addressed?!
I will buy it.
Perhaps it was a ploy to get some of us old fans to buy it. If so... it worked. I will buy it.
"You truly see what a person is made of, when you begin to slice into them" - Semirhage
"I am not mad, no matter what you're implying." - Litalia My DMGuild work!
I will say this: the Innsmouth domain works. Yeah I know, it's a blatantly ridiculous concept, and a transparent gambit to market the book to Lovecraft fans, but damn if they haven't given it their all to make it work. The domain does a good job showcasing how Cthulhu would transform and corrupt the many fantasy creatures and worlds if he and the rest of the Mythos menagerie were allowed to invade the D&D multiverse, making a compelling case why he should remain imprisoned forever... except that setting him free might be the PCs' only chance to escape Ravenloft and go home.
-- That said, I think we're gonna get something else: They're going to retell Soth's story from the get-go, declare the James Lowder novels non-canon, and do a renarration of the kind that "The Legend of Zelda" does every couple of years. Soth apparently was one of the BBEGs for the (flopped?) 2022 Dragonlance remake. (That I only know from online summaries.) Difficult to think things won't pick up from where that one leaves off.
