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alhoon wrote: Secret: What's Isolde's history with the GC? Why she crossed over to Ravenloft to find and destroy him? There are plenty of tyrannies and demons outside Ravenloft and also inside Ravenloft. What started the vendetta?
Good one, Alhoon.

There is this mind boggling excellent fan fiction on the WotC boards which I never got around to finishing but which I suspected/hoped could involve Isolde's quest. Its called Blade of Innocence and involves the Planes, Spelljammer, Ravenloft, Resurrectionists, Celestials, Angels, demons Slaadi and much much more...

And if not it might give an idea of how convoluted and far spanning that quest could be...
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jamesfirecat wrote: I agree with you, also consider Delphi from Neither Man Nor Beast (granted that's not really a direct bloodline link there...) Jacques Renier in Scholar of Decay is clearly evil because he's a bit of a spoiled brat and a wererat supermacist rather than anything as nebulous as the fact that his mother is a darklord, I don't think we've heard anything about Lucita Aderre being anything but a normal girl (well aside from the possible wolfwere thing but that's neither here nor there at the moment).

Oh also the ultimate death blow to the "children of darklords are evil because they are the children of darklords" argument I present to you Mikhail Zolnik from Dark of the Moon.
The classic gothic approach is that evil spawns evil though. Jaques isn't evil just because he's a spoiled brat; he's evil because his whole family is a family of monsters hiding inside humanity and praying on them. Lucita Aderre may be the same monster and even if not, she will lead to tragedy. Godefroy's wife and child are undead spirits of vengeance, trapped in the line between life and death by Godefroy's crimes and their own need for revenge.

I also don't go with the "sins of the father" approach of gothic horror usually btw. I was just saying that Drakov's kids if taken from the cradle and raised up within a good family... they are considered the spawn of evil from gothic perceptive and would turn up either evil or\and will lead to tragedy.
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Also Ryan is there any reason your collecting these questions?
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Maybe....
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Unsolved question:
Why Ryan collects the unsolved questions?
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alhoon wrote:Unsolved question:
Why Ryan collects the unsolved questions?
We need to go deeper.
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Oh, I've got one.

Who or what did Strahd really make his bargain with? Strahd called it "Death", but that's all we know.
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Bluebomber4evr wrote:Oh, I've got one.

Who or what did Strahd really make his bargain with? Strahd called it "Death", but that's all we know.
Isn't that (or was it going to become) the manifestation of the Dark Powers? No? I know never explicitly clarified, but it was always assumed or hinted at. It was given a bit more weight in the final (printed) issue of Dragon Magazine (359) with a finale of Q&A.
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Bluebomber4evr wrote:Oh, I've got one.

Who or what did Strahd really make his bargain with? Strahd called it "Death", but that's all we know.
I know what one TSR Kargat's headcanon was on that one.
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Mangrum wrote:
Bluebomber4evr wrote:Oh, I've got one.

Who or what did Strahd really make his bargain with? Strahd called it "Death", but that's all we know.
I know what one TSR Kargat's headcanon was on that one.
Care to share that with the class? Or is that another thing this youngin missed? :) Not that it will change MY CANNON but still nice to know. The more oppinions i hear the more i develope and choose what i like. :)
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Zilfer wrote:
Mangrum wrote:
Bluebomber4evr wrote:Oh, I've got one.

Who or what did Strahd really make his bargain with? Strahd called it "Death", but that's all we know.
I know what one TSR Kargat's headcanon was on that one.
Care to share that with the class? Or is that another thing this youngin missed? :) Not that it will change MY CANNON but still nice to know. The more oppinions i hear the more i develope and choose what i like. :)
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William Connors' pet theory was that "Death" was a dark power. One of several. For taking such a direct role in corrupting Strahd, the other dark powers exiled this particular "death" from the Mists (or wherever it is the dark powers actually exist). This "death" was trapped in limbo (speaking metaphorically, not in reference to the Great Wheel) until another mortal reached out to the void and made semi-accidental contact. That mortal was a genius and a wizard seeking immortality on behalf of the pharaoh he served...

Why this remains headcanon should be obvious.
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Mangrum wrote:William Connors' pet theory...
Works for me!
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Yeah, that works and makes sense. It's unfortunate the other Kargat at TSR prevented that from being canon, but I can understand why they did.
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Not necessarily the other kargat. I'm sure Connors knew that defining the DPs was a bad idea. He might have kept it unpublished himself.
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