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		<title>Gonzoron at 02:56, 18 December 2011</title>
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		<updated>2011-12-18T02:56:58Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:According to Gaz IV, Gabrielle is the &amp;quot;daughter of the half-Vistana fortune-teller Isabella Aderre&amp;quot;  A retcon, probably.  Not sure if that&amp;#039;s the first source to say it, but it&amp;#039;s the most recent canon info.  I suppose a mention of the discrepancy is in order on her page (and on most of the Aderre family) -- [[User:Gonzoron|Gonzoron]] 14:53, 25 November 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:According to Gaz IV, Gabrielle is the &amp;quot;daughter of the half-Vistana fortune-teller Isabella Aderre&amp;quot;  A retcon, probably.  Not sure if that&amp;#039;s the first source to say it, but it&amp;#039;s the most recent canon info.  I suppose a mention of the discrepancy is in order on her page (and on most of the Aderre family) -- [[User:Gonzoron|Gonzoron]] 14:53, 25 November 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::OK, I did the research.  Isabella being half-vistani (or less) goes all the way back to the Black Box.  In [[Realm of Terror]], p89 it says Gabrielle&#039;s mother was an outcast because she was &quot;not of full blood,&quot; and says Gabby is only &quot;part&quot; vistani (not half).  You&#039;re right that Domains of Dread doesn&#039;t specify why Isabella was outcast, and does label her &quot;vistana&quot;, but also, it&#039;s a bit vague about Gabby.  It says she &quot;&#039;&#039;has the abilities&#039;&#039;&quot; of a half-vistani, but never says she is one directly.  Her statblock says so, but that&#039;s probably because she has the stats of a half-vistani even if she isn&#039;t really one.  Isabella is outright called half-visani in [[SotDR]], p28, and it&#039;s not a simple misprint because there&#039;s a sentence explaining that she was cast out because of being half-blooded.  And, as I mentioned, [[Gaz IV]] agrees.  It makes sense too, because [[The Evil Eye]] says Isabella was captured for years by her captor (i.e. Drakov).  If she were truly full vistani, she would have become [[mortu]] by the end of her imprisonment, and had no power to foretell her daughter&#039;s no-baby curse. -- [[User:Gonzoron|Gonzoron]] 19:56, 17 December 2011 (MST)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Gonzoron</name></author>
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		<title>Gonzoron at 14:53, 25 November 2011</title>
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		<updated>2011-11-25T14:53:22Z</updated>

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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Domains of Dread in the Description of Invidia and of Gabrielle Aderre says, that Isabella was an  &amp;quot;outcast Vistana&amp;quot; (p. 53) and Gabrielle a &amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;half&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;-Vistana&amp;quot; (p.52); which source led you to make them half- respective querter-Vistana?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Domains of Dread in the Description of Invidia and of Gabrielle Aderre says, that Isabella was an  &amp;quot;outcast Vistana&amp;quot; (p. 53) and Gabrielle a &amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;half&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;-Vistana&amp;quot; (p.52); which source led you to make them half- respective querter-Vistana?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:According to Gaz IV, Gabrielle is the &quot;daughter of the half-Vistana fortune-teller Isabella Aderre&quot;  A retcon, probably.  Not sure if that&#039;s the first source to say it, but it&#039;s the most recent canon info.  I suppose a mention of the discrepancy is in order on her page (and on most of the Aderre family) -- [[User:Gonzoron|Gonzoron]] 14:53, 25 November 2011 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Gonzoron</name></author>
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		<title>Lupus at 08:07, 25 November 2011</title>
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		<updated>2011-11-25T08:07:08Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Domains of Dread in the Description of Invidia and of Gabrielle Aderre says, that Isabella was &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;a &lt;/del&gt; &quot;outcast Vistana&quot; (p. 53) and Gabrielle a &quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;half&#039;&#039;&#039;-Vistana&quot; (p.52); which source led you to make them half- respective querter-Vistana?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Domains of Dread in the Description of Invidia and of Gabrielle Aderre says, that Isabella was &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;an &lt;/ins&gt; &quot;outcast Vistana&quot; (p. 53) and Gabrielle a &quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;half&#039;&#039;&#039;-Vistana&quot; (p.52); which source led you to make them half- respective querter-Vistana?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Lupus: Really half-Vistana?</title>
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		<updated>2011-11-25T07:56:27Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Really half-Vistana?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Domains of Dread in the Description of Invidia and of Gabrielle Aderre says, that Isabella was a  &amp;quot;outcast Vistana&amp;quot; (p. 53) and Gabrielle a &amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;half&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;-Vistana&amp;quot; (p.52); which source led you to make them half- respective querter-Vistana?&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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