2005-5-5 12:00:00 AM

[Stygian Inquirer]

!Bueno cinco de mayo senores y senoritas!

[Rotipher of the FoS]

5inco de Mayo? I hope there'5 nothing clo5e to apocalyptic with that connotation.

Nothing apocalyptic ... unless you really, really overdo it on the tequila!

[Cinco de mayo = Mexican national holiday, popular in the US too as an excuse to party ]

[Wiccy of the Fraternity]

It is worth noting that if you take Sunday as the first day of the week, it means you have the 5th day of the 5th month of the 5th year on the 5th day of the week, something that is said to happen only once every 7000 years or so.

Some useless knowledge there for everyone to chew

[alhoon]

It is worth noting that if you take Sunday as the first day of the week, it means you have the 5th day of the 5th month of the 5th year on the 5th day of the week, something that is said to happen only once every 7000 years or so.

Some useless knowledge there for everyone to chew

That was what started this thread Wiccy

5/5/2005! ! !

Tomorrow it will be Thursday 5 May 2005.
Why I believe this is important? You now Greek is an ancient language, so here it is. . .
Thursday in Greek is named Pempti that translates in English as “Fifth” (as it is the 5th day of the week).
So tomorrow, it is 5/5/05 and the day is named 5th in an exotic, ancient language! This is once-in-a-lifetime situation. In 5/5/55 (in 50 years) the day will not be the fifth.

As I said in my post the 5th day of the week is called "Fifth" in Greek.

[Wiccy of the Fraternity]

That was what started this thread Wiccy

Bah, I didn't read that far back in the thread heheheheh

[Gremmith Mi]

Gremmith Mi remembers pondering back during Terminator 2...

Did anyone else have their fingers crossed on Judgement Day (1999 wasn't it?), hoping that the events of Future Shock would come to pass?

[Drinnik Shoehorn]

Gremmith Mi remembers pondering back during Terminator 2...

Did anyone else have their fingers crossed on Judgement Day (1999 wasn't it?), hoping that the events of Future Shock would come to pass?

No, but I'm hoping for the sighting of the Great Dragon Ryumyo near Mount Fiji on 24th December, 2011.


*Brownies if someone can explain why*

[Tobias Blackburn]

No, but I'm hoping for the sighting of the Great Dragon Ryumyo near Mount Fiji on 24th December, 2011.


*Brownies if someone can explain why*

Its a Shadowrun reference.

From the Great Dragon Roll Call

http://www.amurgsval.org/shadowrun/GreatDragons.html

Ryumyo

Eastern dragon. Disappeared after being seen on December 24, 2011 at Mt. Fuji, Ise, and Kyoto, in Japan. (SR2 p223.) Has a vassal, the feathered serpent Naheka, running ALOHA in Hawai’i (PL p58.) Received the Ring Ouroboros from Dunkelzahn. (DS p26.) Indirectly controls a significant amount of the Yakuza through Akira Watada, head of the Pacific Rim Rengo. (MW.) Has strong yakuza ties. (CP.)

[Gremmith Mi]

Damn! beaten to the punch. I knew that too, I really did....

*sniff*

*runs off crying*

[Charney]

I just wanted to talk to you about this 5-5-5-5 we just had. If we dig into Christian and Celt mythology, this moment was, like Alhoon said, charged in magic and/or symbolism. It was a moment where our world and the Other World (where spirits and monster dwells) were very close. First of all, it was close to may 1st, day of the Celtic holiday of Beltene. Now Beltene was considered a moment when otherworldly creatures crossed into our world and needed to be fought by hero-gods.

May is also considered the month of the Dragon by Christian tradition. The 30 day period centered around may 1st is one where there's the highest concentration of Dragon slaying Saints. So this means a lot of dragons comes to our world. This may 5th was also the day during which this years Ascension (christian holiday where Christ goes back to heaven, 40 days after Easter) and medieval peasants held dragon slaying ceremonies during the 3 days before Ascension. This was because the dragons symbolised threats of droughts that new seeds faced. Dragons needed to be slain in those ceremonies so that the saint would assure abondant rains for the summer (symbolically, the dragon blocked access to water so a saint was needed to kill it to allow access to the water). These agricultural rituals are as old as agriculture and predates Christianity.

Also, during these three days where dragons rule, there was Saint-Philip's day. ANd he was also a dragon slayer.

All of this to say that this year's Ascension, which was really close to Beltene, carried a LOT of symbolism. How cool is that

I also know all of this cause I made a paper on Christian dragon slayers this semester. Any questions ?

[alhoon]

I also know all of this cause I made a paper on Christian dragon slayers this semester. Any questions ?

Ahem, how many dragon slayers are in Christian history? There shouldn't be too many IMO. In fact I believe there were none.

[Le Noir Faineant]

Really want to see how you all flip out on 6-6-06...



BTW, if May is the month of the Dragon, then which animal patronizes November (the month of my birthday)? *Looks at the mirror* ummm, surely it's a gorilla...

[Gremmith Mi]

May is the month of the Dragon? W00t! Birthday in may! That rocks my socks!

[Charney]

I also know all of this cause I made a paper on Christian dragon slayers this semester. Any questions ?

Ahem, how many dragon slayers are in Christian history? There shouldn't be too many IMO. In fact I believe there were none.

THere's quite a lot actually and I didn't say history but mythology. When speaking about christian saints, it's not History but Hagiography: the study of saints. Of course there wasn't any real dragon slayers historically (one can still believe though) but Hagiography will study why we have dragon slaying myths in Christianity.

So how many saurochtons (dragonslayers) do we have? I don't have all the numbers (like 10 around may 1st) but I can name a few:
Saint Michael who fights the dragon of the Apocalypse
Saint George who fights the dragon of Lydda in the Near-East
Saint Marcel who liberated Paris from a dragon
One of the Popes is said to fight a dragon in Rome (forgot his name)
Sainte Marthe who fights the Tarrasque in Tarascon, Southern France
Saint Philippe who repels a dragon with a warding symbol.

In hagiography, we talk about dragon slayers but also tamers. So they don't all have to be a knight with a sword. It's any saint who faces and repels, kills or tames a dragon with the power of his faith. In hagiography, dragons are actually more akin to fiendish elementals.

How I love what I study!
And to name my main source: Legenda Aurea (Golden Legend) written by Jacobus of Voragine, Bishop of Gena in the XIIIth century. It's a compedium of about 180 saints. It's actually a great D&D ressource.

And on my part, I have no idea if something happens, in old traditions and mythologies, on 6-6-6 so I won't be flipping

And WoTC actually knows that may is the month of the dragon cause they used that expression for advertisement a few years ago.

[Le Noir Faineant]

The name of the pope that fight against a Dragon in Rome is and is murdered, is Benedict, and under his reign begins the Apocalypse...



Hope that legend STAYS legend...