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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:56 pm
by alhoon
So a full wand would keep them alive for 50/4= 12 *7 minutes = 1 hour and 14 minutes. :)

And it costs 4*7*750= 21000 gold pieces. Not that smart thought IMO for the party. Death ward is a very good spell, very useful.
As a player I would prefer to use the duration to secure some amaranth so that I could have some more time in Necropolis.

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 10:05 am
by DeepShadow of FoS
alhoon wrote:So a full wand would keep them alive for 50/4= 12 *7 minutes = 1 hour and 14 minutes. :)

And it costs 4*7*750= 21000 gold pieces. Not that smart thought IMO for the party. Death ward is a very good spell, very useful.
A lot can happen in an hour, or even half an hour. I've got 27th level characters in Reckonings currently agonizing over all that can happen in about ten minutes.

A party that can afford a wand of death ward can probably enhance their speed somehow. Dimension door and teleportation--even kept to line of sight to avoid mishaps--can have you zipping around Necropolis like nobody's business. Use fly or levitate to enhance these effects, and you've got a lot happening in one minute:

(Party has precast levitate and expeditious retreat on everyone, then uses the wand.)
Round 1: Teleport into the sky over Necropolis (line of sight; off target isn't a big deal, so there's only a 3% chance of anything bad)
Rounds 2-3: Study the area below and figure out where the University of Il Aluk is.
Round 4: Teleport close to the University, using a spyglass to choose and study the very best spot.
Round 5: Find a balcony, cancel levitation
Round 6-9: Dash to the desired room, grab all the loot/records you can find.
Round 10: Teleport back out.

Sure, it's far from foolproof, but that was all crammed into a single minute! That leaves you an extra six minutes (60 rounds!) to handle stuff that gets in your way. And that's with only one round of charges from the wand. Fly or overland flight instead of levitate could help out a lot, while dimension door instead of teleport could reduce risking a 3% chance for a short trip (800' or less).

While you're in the sky, you only need to worry about the undead that can fly, and most of them are level-drainers who can't hurt you anyway.

Wow. Sounds like a grand adventure. I might just have to send my epics there! :twisted:
As a player I would prefer to use the duration to secure some amaranth so that I could have some more time in Necropolis.
As a player, sure. Does your PC know about amaranth? :wink: Frankly, as a player, I'd rather not go into Necropolis, if it's all the same to you. :roll:

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 10:58 am
by Gonzoron of the FoS
I daresay you're getting a bit too used to thinking like an epic. :) Few RL characters have easy access to teleport. But Haste, Expeditious Retreat, and Longstrider, sure. Making that a wand of extended death ward might help too.

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:44 pm
by Jasper
Good plan but just make dang sure you don't fly over any undead mages with dispel magic or you are FUBAR.

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 6:14 pm
by alhoon
gonzoron wrote:Few RL characters have easy access to teleport. But Haste, Expeditious Retreat, and Longstrider, sure. Making that a wand of extended death ward might help too.

Few RL characters have access to Necropolis too :). And IMO, teleport is easier to have than a wand of Death Ward.
And you can only make a staff of extended death ward as it is considered 5th level spell.
Jasper wrote:Good plan but just make dang sure you don't fly over any undead mages with dispel magic or you are FUBAR.
What is a FUBAR?
Does it contain the word Undead in it?
And I was also going to express the same concern about the dispel magic spell...
DeepShadow wrote:
As a player I would prefer to use the duration to secure some amaranth so that I could have some more time in Necropolis.
As a player, sure. Does your PC know about amaranth? :wink: Frankly, as a player, I'd rather not go into Necropolis, if it's all the same to you. :roll:
Mmm... No to both questions :oops:
But my PCs probably not know if death ward would work at all... :roll:

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:06 pm
by Drinnik Shoehorn
alhoon wrote:
What is a FUBAR?
Does it contain the word Undead in it?
And I was also going to express the same concern about the dispel magic spell...
The F is something we're not allowed to type, then it's Up Beyond All Recognition.

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 3:09 am
by Manofevil
alhoon wrote: What is a FUBAR?
It means <thinks>... Fouled up beyond all recognition! :D

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:01 am
by ScS of the Fraternity
Sure, why not.

By the by, Fouled itself is an anacronym - invented by those rascally english at Scotland Yard. Whenever they caught a couple in lewd public acts, they refered to it as

Filed
Under
Carnal
Knowledge

In any case, someone trying to loot the University would be very, very Filed.

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:32 am
by Mad Skipper
ScS of the Fraternity wrote:Sure, why not.

By the by, Fouled itself is an anacronym - invented by those rascally english at Scotland Yard. Whenever they caught a couple in lewd public acts, they refered to it as

Filed
Under
Carnal
Knowledge

In any case, someone trying to loot the University would be very, very Filed.
Hasn't that (and its F-word alternatives) been deemed "false etymology"?

Also, I've always understood it to be For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge...isn't it funny how some things become chinese whispered*?

* = An old game played in elementary school where one student repeats a message to another, and so on down the line, until the last student in the class repeats the invariably misinterpreted message out loud. This was before people got crucified for not being politically correct...

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 4:50 pm
by Drinnik Shoehorn
ScS of the Fraternity wrote:Sure, why not.

By the by, Fouled itself is an anacronym - invented by those rascally english at Scotland Yard. Whenever they caught a couple in lewd public acts, they refered to it as

Filed
Under
Carnal
Knowledge

In any case, someone trying to loot the University would be very, very Filed.
Actually, it's For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge, and that's an Urban myth, sorry. Check Snopes for more information. WARNING: Bad language through the link, click at own peril.

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:13 am
by Kel-nage
Drinnik Shoehorn wrote:
ScS of the Fraternity wrote:Sure, why not.

By the by, Fouled itself is an anacronym - invented by those rascally english at Scotland Yard. Whenever they caught a couple in lewd public acts, they refered to it as

Filed
Under
Carnal
Knowledge

In any case, someone trying to loot the University would be very, very Filed.
Actually, it's For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge, and that's an Urban myth, sorry. Check Snopes for more information. WARNING: Bad language through the link, click at own peril.
I have a feeling ScS was pulling your legs. I might be wrong, but hey...

And yes, it is an urban myth. The word derives from a Angle word, if I remember my etymologies correctly.