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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 6:41 pm
by Rotipher of the FoS
We can do a list for starters, then, and I or whoever else is interested can convert it to a spreadsheet when we have the time. That would mean we need to include as much information about the listed items as possible, though, so that the spreadsheet can be as complete as it needs to be.

It wouldn't be hard to have a column on a spreadsheet that says if things are canon or non-canon, making it simple to reshuffle the list to separate the two. We could even have a third designation for stuff that didn't even show up in a netbook, but was simply mentioned in a forum or an online game (like that "Pennies for the Ferryman" song that kept cropping up in the EwtF game). Not that anyone's likely to root through forum archives and so on, hunting for such references; it'd just be a way to include things that stuck in people's minds, the way that song stuck in mine. :roll:

A spreadsheet would also be slightly easier to update than a list, since a new entry can just be tagged on at the end, instead of the editor's trying to work out where on a list it best belongs.

Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 8:04 pm
by LouisVendredi
You could probably just put a column on the spreadsheet indicating whether or not the entry was canon.

Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 9:50 pm
by mistshadow2k4
LouisVendredi wrote:You could probably just put a column on the spreadsheet indicating whether or not the entry was canon.
Perfect.

Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 11:26 pm
by Joël of the FoS
Well I have a project (soon to be released) where this info could fit. It is in the form of a spreadsheet. So if you want to integrate this information with mine, I'd say for the moment keep compiling these infos from the canon books - you'll soon see the list I'm hinting at, and I'm sure this stuff will fit in well.

Joël

Professor Abelhous Nicholsi

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 12:49 am
by cure
Publications By
Professor Abelhous Nicholsi
v Soil Content and Agricultural Crops
v Crop Yields and Traditional Farming Techniques
v Medicinal Applications of Native Darkonian Flora
v Psychotropic Plants and the Mystic Tradition
v Distinctive Signatures of Flora and Floral
Derivatives in Homicide
v Practical Chemical Derivatives of Core Flora
v Dangerous Flora: A Guide to Carnivorous and
Toxic Plants
v Flora and Fauna of the Forfarian Forests
v Flora and Fauna of the Mordent Moorlands
v Cryptobotany: Search for the Doppleganger Plant
and Others
v Speculative Biology of an Inhabitant of Bluetspur
v Native Flora of the Tropical Forests of Sri Raji
(forthcoming)

Book of Souls, p. 47

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 1:30 am
by cure
Drama
The Damneable Tragedie of Counte Vonn Zarovych by Demius the Bard
Mort D’Amour by William On-Arden

Prose
Romance From Beyond the Grave series
-The Dead Travel Fast
-Dead But Not Forgotten
-Love Lies Dying
The Castle of Aornis
Mordenheim
The Vampyr Lord
The Tales of Howard L. Crofter (the ‘Mists Cycle’) by Phillip Edgar
Kitab Al-Azif in the language of al-Kathos
Unausprechlichen Kulten by von Junzt
The Cultes Des Goules detailing Dementlieu and Richemulot
Liber Ivonis
De Vermiis Mysteriis
True Magick
Monstres and Their Kynde
Catalouge of the Undead
Ye Books of Monstres
Revelations of Glaaki
Cryptical Books of Hsan
Van Richten’s Guides
The holy text of the Church of Ezra is called the Medicia Deitus
Banites follow the Book of Wrath
Followers of the Morninglord read the Light of New
Dawn

Poetry
Night Faeries by Lord Darryn of Vuchar
Love Songs and Grave Poems by Lady Veronica Blackstone of Bergovista
The Black Death, A Plague Chronicle In Verse credited only to “The Scrivner”
Fairly skillless writings and music of Baron Evensong of Liffe
Compilations entitled Azathtoth and Other Horrors by Edward Derby
The People of the Monolith by Justin Geoffrey

Book of Souls, p. 9

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 11:22 am
by Rotipher of the FoS
Hmmm. Maybe we should flag the Lovecraft-imports as such, for DMs who want to keep Cthulhu out of their campaigns. This could be a sub-heading within the "canon/non-canon" column, i.e. "non-canon (Lovecraft)".

For that matter, flagging the joke-entries (like the undead self-help book from I6 :roll: ) wouldn't hurt either. "Canon (cheesy)", perhaps?

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 2:49 pm
by mistshadow2k4
Rotipher wrote:Hmmm. Maybe we should flag the Lovecraft-imports as such, for DMs who want to keep Cthulhu out of their campaigns. This could be a sub-heading within the "canon/non-canon" column, i.e. "non-canon (Lovecraft)".

For that matter, flagging the joke-entries (like the undead self-help book from I6 :roll: ) wouldn't hurt either. "Canon (cheesy)", perhaps?
Much as I love Lovecraft and the joke titles (101 Damnations, hehe), I have to agree that would be a good idea.

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 6:43 pm
by LouisVendredi
mistshadow2k4 wrote:101 Damnations
LOL. I <B><I>must</I></B> use this.

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 9:17 pm
by Jester of the FoS
From Children of the Night: The Created:
Enigma Vitae by Victor Mordenheim.

Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 2:15 pm
by Lord Cyclohexane
Rotipher wrote:That would mean we need to include as much information about the listed items as possible, though, so that the spreadsheet can be as complete as it needs to be.
That's why I was including page numbers for all of the things I looked up. I figured, since I didn't know exactly what mistshadow2k4 was looking for, that way it'd be properly referenced so that more information could be found easily. If others could do the same, that'd be greatly appreciated (thanks cure for already doing so!)

Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 7:15 pm
by Lord Cyclohexane
mistshadow2k4 wrote:There might be a few I've missed too.
As such, I followed up on VRGttWD just in case. My additions are simply due to personal flavor (I'd have Raiment of Clarity on the list, as someone may have a transcribed portion from it, or it might be nice to reference it as a clue for something, etc). Mostly I did this to include page numbers, authors, etc.

Van Richten's Guide to the Walking Dead

--- Bestiary of Artak - Includes info on hungry dead (p40)
--- Pavel, Heir to the Sun - Ancient Barovian saga (p44)
--- The Scrawls by M. Claude Harriet - Story (p48)
--- The Casebook of Alanik Ray by Arthur Sedgewick - Also in GazIII, here p50
--- The Hammer of Light by Cletus von Sarr - Guide to fighting undead (p79)
--- A Love Beyond Death - a "Romance from Beyond the Grave" novel (p80)
--- Raiment of Clarity by the Iron Crown - Cursed necromantic text (p86)

Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 7:44 pm
by Lord Cyclohexane
I've caught two books from the "Romance from Beyond the Grave" series:

--- A Love Beyond Death, in VRGttWD p80
--- The Dead Travel Fast, in GazIII p19

Note that the latter entry, from GazIII, refers to a series called "The Dead Travel Fast", but mentions no books as a part of it. Mangrum's list shows a book called "The Dead Travel Fast" and that it's a book in the "Romance from Beyond the Grave" series, but I have no idea what real-world book he got that from...

Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 7:46 pm
by Mangrum
The trashy novel The Dead Travel Fast (and inspiration for the subsequent "series") comes from Scholar of Decay.

Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 8:32 pm
by Lord Cyclohexane
Cool, thank you for the very prompt reply!

So, that then makes the series called "Romance from Beyond the Grave," but it's occassionally known as "The Dead Travel Fast" series due to the name of the first book of the series. That makes this make much more sense, and helps for organization later on.