It might be interesting to give Ezra Loa stats. Sort of like Voodun took the Virgin Mary and other elements of Christianity and incorporated them into the religion, I could easily see Voodan doing the same thing.ScS of the Fraternity wrote: As for religion, personally I lean towards incorporating the Anchorites. I would perfer to try to spread 1 religion to use as the replacement for Christianity. Stilll, it would take a lot of wiggling to fit that particular church into pre=Ravenloft Souragnian history, but we shall see what we can do.
Perhaps it was some outlander religion at first, but the disconnected feeling of the priests when they were brought into RL drove them mad or at least made them think the gods had abandoned them. Then a few generations of secular living followed in which the nobility abandoned the gods that abandoned them. Meanwhile the slave population felt vindicated, since the loas continued to bless them. Eventually, an anchorite or two found their way through the mists to Sourange, and filled the void with the promise of a god that listened, and even performed miracles for them. The nobility grasped onto it, and perhaps even eventually forgot that it wasn't their original religion.ScS of the Fraternity wrote:As for religion, personally I lean towards incorporating the Anchorites. I would perfer to try to spread 1 religion to use as the replacement for Christianity. Stilll, it would take a lot of wiggling to fit that particular church into pre=Ravenloft Souragnian history, but we shall see what we can do.
How about, the religion is the same as to what was found in Dementlieu by the Home Faith sect (causing the birth of the third sect), a ancient version of the Ezra religion found them in the old churches, this would mean that links between the two domains in the false history could be establish paralling the real world France and New Orleans. Thus Anchorites would simply be reviving the religion once more as they did in Dementlieu.gonzoron wrote:Perhaps it was some outlander religion at first, but the disconnected feeling of the priests when they were brought into RL drove them mad or at least made them think the gods had abandoned them. Then a few generations of secular living followed in which the nobility abandoned the gods that abandoned them. Meanwhile the slave population felt vindicated, since the loas continued to bless them. Eventually, an anchorite or two found their way through the mists to Sourange, and filled the void with the promise of a god that listened, and even performed miracles for them. The nobility grasped onto it, and perhaps even eventually forgot that it wasn't their original religion.ScS of the Fraternity wrote:As for religion, personally I lean towards incorporating the Anchorites. I would perfer to try to spread 1 religion to use as the replacement for Christianity. Stilll, it would take a lot of wiggling to fit that particular church into pre=Ravenloft Souragnian history, but we shall see what we can do.
No priests of this ruling class existed or arose; this makes sense when you consider how Misroi's well-preoccupied with learning from the Maiden of the Swamp. dingdingding!!! I think we have a winner here, folks. (at least, IMHO.) Great thinking, brother.brothersale wrote:How about, the religion is the same as to what was found in Dementlieu by the Home Faith sect (causing the birth of the third sect), a ancient version of the Ezra religion found them in the old churches, this would mean that links between the two domains in the false history could be establish paralling the real world France and New Orleans. Thus Anchorites would simply be reviving the religion once more as they did in Dementlieu.
I never would have thought of that, but I like it alot...gonzoron wrote:Perhaps it was some outlander religion at first, but the disconnected feeling of the priests when they were brought into RL drove them mad or at least made them think the gods had abandoned them. Then a few generations of secular living followed in which the nobility abandoned the gods that abandoned them. Meanwhile the slave population felt vindicated, since the loas continued to bless them. Eventually, an anchorite or two found their way through the mists to Sourange, and filled the void with the promise of a god that listened, and even performed miracles for them. The nobility grasped onto it, and perhaps even eventually forgot that it wasn't their original religion.
I agree...gonzoron wrote:dingdingding!!! I think we have a winner here, folks. (at least, IMHO.) Great thinking, brother.brothersale wrote:
How about, the religion is the same as to what was found in Dementlieu by the Home Faith sect (causing the birth of the third sect), a ancient version of the Ezra religion found them in the old churches, this would mean that links between the two domains in the false history could be establish paralling the real world France and New Orleans. Thus Anchorites would simply be reviving the religion once more as they did in Dementlieu.
Is this confirmed by canon somewhere? Just wondering... I thought they could originally have been outsiders. NotWD suggests that Marais d'Tarascon has existed for at least 200 hundred years. Then again, false memory and actual "outsider roots" need not be mutually exclusive. IMC, 635 BC is simply the first time someone from the Core (Darkonian sailors) stumbled upon Souragne, and thus the first date when others could independently confirm its existence. Since NotWD also has Hyskosa visiting Marais d'Tarascon shortly after its foundation (and thus approximately one century prior to 635 BC), I had him visit the prime material Souragne before it became part of Ravenloft, while prophesying both its eventual absoprtion into the demi-plane and the role it would later play in the Grand Conjunction (i.e., he prophesied that a dire event would manifest in Souragne one century after Marais d'Tarascon was founded, and yet another one would strike at the beginning of the colony's second century of existence). This would resolve potential inconsistencies between NotWD and the Ravenloft timeline.Llana wrote:Don't forget that Souragne's population aren't outsiders brought into the Land of the Mists, but a population that suddenly arises from the Mists at Misroi's entry.
I agree with everything you've said, ScS...ScS of the Fraternity wrote: I like these notions, Brothersale.
It will be a little awkward to say that Souragnian Anchorites are from a false history, but we can resolve it by having the Gazeteer express the Fraternity's bafflement of the situation - the scholar writing the text will no doubt point out that the difference in dates is clear evidence of False History.
As well, extremely old icons that have been forgotten may be revealed to be from a similar but seperate faith - which the Souragnians have completly forgotten. As far as they know, they have always been Ezrites, as described by Yakov's book. Priests may even have a copy of the book, which is similar except for some tiny details.
Also, I think it would be a good idea for the voodun religion to use Ezra as one of the loa. Though a minor spirit in the pantheon, the misty lady is one of the loa called upon for benign magic.
I also like the idea of members oft he rulling class keeping an icon of Ezra, which is secretly an icon of Ezra's loa. Tiny details would give that away - ex: wedding ring on hand, symbolizing marriage to a loa of mist or prophesy?
Just wondering how Shaman Brucian from NotWD would fit into this picture. According to NotWD (p. 20), "Shaman Brucian is the village priest. His church honors the gods of good, paying equal service to law, neutrality and chaos, though Brucian himself is neutral good."ScS of the Fraternity wrote:I like these notions, Brothersale.
It will be a little awkward to say that Souragnian Anchorites are from a false history, but we can resolve it by having the Gazeteer express the Fraternity's bafflement of the situation - the scholar writing the text will no doubt point out that the difference in dates is clear evidence of False History.
As well, extremely old icons that have been forgotten may be revealed to be from a similar but seperate faith - which the Souragnians have completly forgotten. As far as they know, they have always been Ezrites, as described by Yakov's book. Priests may even have a copy of the book, which is similar except for some tiny details.
Also, I think it would be a good idea for the voodun religion to use Ezra as one of the loa. Though a minor spirit in the pantheon, the misty lady is one of the loa called upon for benign magic.
I also like the idea of members oft he rulling class keeping an icon of Ezra, which is secretly an icon of Ezra's loa. Tiny details would give that away - ex: wedding ring on hand, symbolizing marriage to a loa of mist or prophesy?
Nice! But hadn't Anton regained his human appearance? I'm pretty sure that's what it describes in both the second edition and Dance of the Dead.Undead Cabbage wrote:Well, I dont know if you guys already have a drawing in line for Anton Misroi, or if you just want to use the 2E version. But either way, my dedication towards the frat on this piece, be it acceptance or denial: here's my best shot.
That's actually what I was going for. That, and his lack there of eye-brows is meant to suggest something 'wrong' with him, while not making his flesh dead or decayed.The picture may be symbolic. He is half alive, half dead after all.
