OOC: EwtF

[Rotipher of the FoS]

While you guys are welcome to enjoy your "shop talk", you might want to take two very basic issues into account before you take action:

1) If Roeccha had wanted us to silence Chicken Bone after getting information about the ring, he would surely have mentioned it; and

2) Assuming that anyone who hangs out with zombies will stay quiet just because you've killed them is bloody naive, for Ravenloft.

[Pamela]

Oooookaaaayyyyy.....

[alhoon]

1) If Roeccha had wanted us to silence Chicken Bone after getting information about the ring, he would surely have mentioned it; and

I don't think so. Roeccha knows we are an evil bunch and that we have made a vow to keep some secrets whatever the cost. So while he may have said that we should make sure Chicken bone is silenced he may very well have considered that we should make the choice.

2) Assuming that anyone who hangs out with zombies will stay quiet just because you've killed them is bloody naive, for Ravenloft.

On the other hand this is a very convincing argument.
After all, he is a hermit that the locals keep their distance from. There is a chance taht he would tell something to the wrong person but this isn't probable. On the other hand his vengeful ghost or revenant would certainly be more of a trouble... and would talk to more people.

[Rotipher of the FoS]

Roeccha knows we are an evil bunch and that we have made a vow to keep some secrets whatever the cost. So while he may have said that we should make sure Chicken bone is silenced he may very well have considered that we should make the choice.

Evil, yes; gratuitously evil, no. The Frat's ruthless, but it doesn't like its members to incur Powers checks if there's another viable alternative, remember?

Roeccha let us hire a guide -- heck, he even gave us the money to pay for one -- despite the fact that the guide would know where we went. For that matter, he brought us to town himself, and gave us permission to search for the guide there, even though it meant telling others (even the head of the local church!) where we planned to go. The darkling could hardly want us to kill the messenger, if blame for the voodan's death would trace back to the Maison and its weirdo guests. The Frat doesn't hide the fact that it exists, so it needs to keep up its tidy public image as an elite "gentleman's club" for intellectuals.

Really, what does Chicken Bone know that's so dangerous? Somebody lost a ring. We want to find out why. There's nothing in that -- so far, at least -- that endangers the Frat's private business. I can imagine Draxton might want to waste the voodan for implying he's a back-biting snake, by assigning him such a patron, but that'd hardly be news to the Richemulouise's fellow Frat members.

In any case, even if Chicken Bone could be killed -- and even if he stayed dead afterwards -- it's the loa that are offering information, not just the voodan they're "riding". Unless Serd is ready to bet his life that old man is yanking our chains with his act and the loa are just made-up stories, not spiritual entities, he'd have to kill Brahmbei to cover up what we came here to learn ... and how the heck can you kill a loa?

[alhoon]

Well, our guide knows nothing at all about the frat. So he isn't dangerous so we don't need to take care of him.


As for Chickenbone:
1. The locals wouldn't miss him for a long time, and when they found him dead they couldn't trace that back to us probably (that is, if Chickenbone remained dead)

2. Draxton knows he is a backbiting snake and he knows the frat knows. However Draxton doesn't want the Frat to know how much he likes necromancy, zombies, spirits etc. Chickenbone may well expose Draxton.

3. Draxton believes Chickenbone knows much, that the Loa tell him much. What the Fraternity of shadows actually is, what are its goals, how much progress it has made, where the cells are, which domains are more influenced by the FoS, some long term plans of the Fathers etc.
That means Draxton believes that Chickenbone may know far more about the Fraternity than even our group knows. More than is safe for someone to know.

4. Nope, even if we could arrange for Chicken bone to die... he wouldn't stay quiet. FAR from it. It is far more safe for Draxton's secrets and the Frat's secrets if Chickenbone remains alive. In fact it is in Draxton's best interests to keep Chickenbone alive!

[Nathan of the FoS]

The end of the Souragne Gazetteer may be instructive on these points. From what your characters have already learned from Viktor Hazan, Chicken Bone knows a great deal about the Fraternity already, and someone would miss him almost immediately...

[Rotipher of the FoS]

Very, very, very good point, Nathan. Okay, gang, knocking off the local darklord's pet can be crossed off the 'To Do' list for the evening.

Heck, if the Frat started moving against darklords who know too much, it would've been wiped out generations ago.

(Hmmm. So ... what would the Frat do if a darklord wanted to join their little club? Even with the necromancy ban, there's bound to be two or three of them that meet the requirements. )

[alhoon]

Hey, Azalin didn't manage to wipe out the FoS!

[alhoon]

3. Draxton believes Chickenbone knows much, that the Loa tell him much. What the Fraternity of shadows actually is, what are its goals, how much progress it has made, where the cells are, which domains are more influenced by the FoS, some long term plans of the Fathers etc.
That means Draxton believes that Chickenbone may know far more about the Fraternity than even our group knows. More than is safe for someone to know.

From what your characters have already learned from Viktor Hazan, Chicken Bone knows a great deal about the Fraternity already,

Yeap. Draxton was right.

Very, very, very good point, Nathan. Okay, gang, knocking off the local darklord's pet can be crossed off the 'To Do' list for the evening.

We never planned to go against him in the first place. At least I was admitedly thinking it but the "You kill him... will he stay quiet?" thing stopped that argument very effectively.

[steveflam]

Speaking of making a camp where we are, is it even possible in the swamp to find a place to make a camp??

[Nathan of the FoS]

Speaking of making a camp where we are, is it even possible in the swamp to find a place to make a camp??

Technically, yes, but you'd have to get Gerard to take you somewhere else. The fact that it's been raining cats and dogs also complicates matters..

[steveflam]

So in effect it is a good idea but we might have to tell the Frat upstairs that is what we arre doing perhaps?

[VAN]

I don't think they'd like to be interrupted for such matter!

[steveflam]

Ok so we can ask him and go then hopefully the Frat will realise what we did

[VAN]

No it's better wait there, they cannot go downstairs and don't find us. We can turn the boat upside down and be beneath it, so we will protect ourselves from the rain.