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Heraldry, flags, and colors for each domain.

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:17 am
by Mischief
The whole Azalin 5e art thing had me thinking about heraldry and color coding domains. Some domains I recall having flags/colors already that I am most likely misremembering. Feel free to create your own list or design your own flags.


███ Barovia ███ - Crimson Red / Black / White,
Flag: Crimson field, Raven black with white outlining.
███ Borca ███ - Foxglove Purple / Silver
Flag: Purple Field with white/silver belladonna
███ Darkon ███ - Greyed Navy Blue / Black / Cinnabar Red
Flag: Navy field, Fiery eye in cinnabar lined and filled in black.
█ Dementlieu ██ - French Blue / White
Flag: Typical European block color or stripy business.
███ Falkovnia ███ - Bronze
Flag: Bronze field, black and gold grumpy soviet hawk
█ Forlorn ██ - Green Tartan (Green, Teal, Blue, Red)
Uses plaids. Flag: Tree with roots
███ Hazlan ███ - Red
Flag: Red field with some sort of arcane scribbles in gold.
███ Lamordia ███ - Grey
Flag: Simple triangle/chevron that looks like a mountain
Mordent - Verdigris / White / Jet
Flag: Typical European block color or stripy business or a plain shield
Nova Vaasa ██ - White / Black
Flag: Field black and white, split in half with one upright black horse and one upright white horse facing each other on their opposite colors.
███ Orospero ███ - Gold / Azulejo Blue
Flag: Blue field, Gold castle, but plain golden yellow banderoles are the most common of all.
Richemulot - Sky Blue / White / Red
Flag: Typical European block color or stripy business.
█ Rokushima ██ - Green / Red
Flag: six red seigaiha waves in a ring on green field.
███ Sithicus ███ - Black / Crimson Red / White
Flag: Black field, white rose lined in crimson.
Zytia - Sun Blue / Pollen Yellow / Rust Red / Obsidian / Alchemic Green / Mist)
Flag: The Zytian Court doesn't use a consistent national flag. The closest thing would be a red border/field, large yellow land symbol nested, with blue sun symbol nested within.

Re: Heraldry, flags, and colors for each domain.

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:34 am
by Mistmaster
The flags should have heraldry on it.

Re: Heraldry, flags, and colors for each domain.

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:29 pm
by Mischief
Mistmaster wrote:The flags should have heraldry on it.
You mean like a whole coat of arms on the flag? Like Wisconsin's?

Edit, put Wisconsin in a spoiler box, because that's one ugly flag.
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Most flags use simple designs because they had to be identifiable at a distance. I wasn't planning on drawing any more flags than I have to, just the domains that I'm doing gazetteers for. I do want to take a stab at the fiery eye one day, but that's about it.

Re: Heraldry, flags, and colors for each domain.

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:17 pm
by Mistmaster
Yes, simple designs but with a coat of arm of the royal dunasty, or the nation simble. For example Prussia had the imperiall eagle on it. I'd say Falkovnia will have the Zweifalk on it.But I noticed some of them do have it.

Re: Heraldry, flags, and colors for each domain.

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:20 pm
by Mischief
Mistmaster wrote:Yes, simple designs but with a coat of arm of the royal dunasty, or the nation simble. For example Prussia had the imperiall eagle on it. I'd say Falkovnia will have the Zweifalk on it.But I noticed some of them do have it.
Oh, those little squares were just the "█" Unicode character and I colored it in with bbcode [color=#XXXXXX][/color] because I thought it looked nicer and more "color swatch-y" than using plain colored text. They aren't an image of a flag. It would be super boring if every flag in Ravenloft looked like a tricolor!

Edit: I searched the hard drive and I did do a Falkovnia rough mockup a couple years back a year+ based on the main country from that indie game Papers, Please. It's the falcon holding a sheaf of wheat and spears, like US presidential seal, except I flipped the spears to be in the right talon to imply that's what Falkovnia uses first. I adjusted the colors a touch just now because it was a black flag before. I'm pretty sure the whole thing is assembled from illegal clip art and/or fan art I scraped from bing so don't go reposting it anywhere.

Re: Heraldry, flags, and colors for each domain.

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:15 am
by Mistmaster
The hawk needs 2 head thought.

Re: Heraldry, flags, and colors for each domain.

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:55 pm
by Mischief
Mistmaster wrote:The hawk needs 2 head thought.
I can send you a higher res version and you could try fixing it.

Re: Heraldry, flags, and colors for each domain.

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:26 pm
by Mistmaster
I'm not a pro-editor but I won't mind the file.

Re: Heraldry, flags, and colors for each domain.

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:19 pm
by Mischief
Mistmaster wrote:I'm not a pro-editor but I won't mind the file.
I drew one of the flags in MS paint while pretending to work taking an excel VBA frustration break, so I hear ya there. :P

https://imgur.com/KTyyWYR

Once you widen the body to make room for both heads, the tail will look funny, but if you can use the great seal of the United States as a reference.
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Re: Heraldry, flags, and colors for each domain.

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:02 pm
by Tristissima
I've been running the Great Pendragon campagn for a different RPG, and it's got me on quite the heraldry kick! So I used the website I use for that game to spin up several coats of arms for the various realms based on this post. What do y'all think of them?

They are blazoned as so:
Forlorn: Tartan of vert, azure, and gules, a tree eradicated and blasted sable
Barovia: Sanguine,a raven proper langued and membered Argent
Borca: Purpure, a foxglove Argent
Darkon: Azure, a fire gules, an eye sable
Dementlieu: Azure, a pale Argent
Falkovnia: Brunatre, a bend sinister sable, a hawk Or
Lamordia: Sable, a chevron cendree
Mordent: Tierced-in-pale azure, Argent, and sable

You can find them here for now, and I do believe I might post them to my blog, too....

Re: Heraldry, flags, and colors for each domain.

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:51 pm
by Mephisto of the FoS
For Tristissima's flags I have to say I like most of them. the only thing I don't get is why Lamordia, Dementlieu and Mordent are so similar in color selection. I had made years ago some flags myself. The first one was for Borca, I don't remember where I had read about the image of a dismembered snake and the stars but I think it was canon (but maybe I am mistaken), also the burgundy color of the flag. Then for Falkovnia I had made the following, but different regiments can have different flags so I would use both, but the one posted by Mischief is too modern for my taste not so medieval, Asbjørn Hammervik aka Malken had also made some flags back then but they looked too modern too. And for Skald I had made the harp since Kartakass is more considered being a domain of city-states. I didn't post my version of the Darkon Flag since I perefer Tristissima's, didn't repost Gundaraks since I have second thoughts for that and I like the Barovian flag by Tristissima and I like the Rokushima flag but I believe each Damiyo should have one and not one as a nation. Chris Nicols had started the flags and heraldry so there are his versions there too, including the one of the ApBlanc crest, which I changed then since there was a minor mistake on his take, compared to one on Gilan ApBlanc's illustration fro Castle's Forlorn. For the take of Forlorn I would again use heraldry of the different Clans and so the flag of Forfar, would have the crest of its Baron. Before there was the Kingdom of Firfair so a flag of the kingdom could be possible, but I would be sceptical of using an oak tree and I believe the Goblyns would still use clan heraldry than a national flag.

Re: Heraldry, flags, and colors for each domain.

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 7:13 pm
by Mistmaster
All Falovnian flag are nice but the Hawks need two heads there.

Re: Heraldry, flags, and colors for each domain.

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 7:52 pm
by Mephisto of the FoS
Mistmaster wrote:All Falovnian flag are nice but the Hawks need two heads there.
If the Zweifolk image is used with a red background it will be similar to the real world flag of Albania (although the Albanian flag has a double headed eagle, but they are almost the same in heradlric drawings) so I wouldn't use it myself, since it could be considered provocative. Anyway Drakovs crest is the falcon not the zweifolk and also the double headed eagle is an emblem mostly associated with the Byzantine Empire it is not of Byzantine invention, but a traditional Anatolian motif dating to Hittite times, and the Byzantines themselves only used it in the last centuries of the Empire. So since the historical world Vlad Tepes Dracula existed the era of the last days of the Byzantine Empire where the double headed image was used and his insignia was spomething different I woulnd't use a double headed bird either.

Re: Heraldry, flags, and colors for each domain.

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:06 pm
by Mephisto of the FoS
I made these two versions of the Sithican flag, using the tudor rose, although I believe that each city in Sithicus uses the crest of it's Lord Speaker or Lady Speaker. Also now probably Azrael has changed the flag to show his own insignia as the pathetic touchy little badger that he is...

Re: Heraldry, flags, and colors for each domain.

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:07 pm
by Mephisto of the FoS
This is the other version