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Has anyone seen/read/bought Shadowrun 4th Ed?

If so, what's the changes from the old system like? How does it compare to 3rd Ed? Do you need a degree in Quantum Nuclear Physics to run the Matrix and Rigging still?

there is a decent review up on pg.net I beleive

My friend's got the "Special Edition" copy of the rulebook. He's pretty happy with it, from what I can tell.

The new wireless Matrix entries will probably give you even more headaches. From what I've understood, they've not simplified the system that much. To be honest, without completely (and I mean completely) rewritting the rules, I doubt SR ever will be easy to understand.

I havn't looked at it yet. My group and I are still debating whether we want to update everything to 4th since we don't really get to play that much anyway. But hey, if it's good I could definatley see us making the switch.

Kel-nage wrote:
The new wireless Matrix entries will probably give you even more headaches. From what I've understood, they've not simplified the system that much. To be honest, without completely (and I mean completely) rewritting the rules, I doubt SR ever will be easy to understand.

Does everyone still sit around and play euchre for an hour while the decker does his stuff?

I must admit, I doubt I'll ever find out. We basically have a house rule saying that no-one will create a character that involves rules that neither the DM (my friend) nor the rules-lawyer (myself) understand. Unfortunately, the Matrix fits into that category.

Well i think they did try to adress the decker problem. I don't know how though as i didn#t read the book yet. The only thing i know is that
Deckers - now called hackers irrc - don't need to plugin anymore going wireless all the way.

I'm psyched personally, l had no idea the 4rth ed was released yet. I've been a shadowrun fan for a very long time, and consider it to be on e of the most entertaining settings out there.

I'm going to check it out.

PS I ordered it from Amazon yesterday for 30 bucks.

Word

With 4th Ed is the revival of the Shadowrun Novel line.

Something I am very happy about.

Drinnik Shoehorn wrote:With 4th Ed is the revival of the Shadowrun Novel line.

Something I am very happy about.

All depending on who's authoring them of course...

Jason Am(brus) wrote:

Drinnik Shoehorn wrote:With 4th Ed is the revival of the Shadowrun Novel line.

Something I am very happy about.

All depending on who's authoring them of course...

Anyone but Lisa Smedman would be favourite.

Castles Forlorn is a great Ravenloft accessory.

The Forever Drug is one of the worst RPG novels I've ever read.

What !?! New novels? *does the happy dance*
Links, titles, reviews please.

Who are the authors? (Please let it not only be tranlsations of the grman novels. I mean one or two were quite good but the rest.. )

Who's your favorite author from the old novels? What do you think of Nyx Smith's books? Who is Nyx Smith anyway? It's a pseudony isn't it? Interestingly most german readers that I know like his books very much ( me included) while americans generally hate them for reasons i can't seem to recall.

Ooh boy. Born to Run launches the new novels. I bought it in german a while ago (not available in english then) and began reading it and well it is mediocre imho. I can see how it is a good start though, introducing newbies to the world and such. It features the characters from the Minis line btw (Kellan Colt etc.)

If they translate some of the german books, look out for Pesadillas. That one was real good!

My favourite Shadowrun book, hell it's one of my favourite books ever, is Worlds Without End by Caroline Spector.

Best part is, the Earthdawn novels are getting a reprint too, so I can get Scars and Little Treasures soon too!