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Pathfinder conversion rules/document?

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:55 am
by Ravendragon
I'm curious to know if anyone has worked on converting Ravenloft to Pathfinder and if a document exists that I can get my [virtual] hands on.

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:50 am
by Gonzoron of the FoS
As far as I know, it hasn't been done yet, but seeing as how Pathfinder is mostly backwards compatible, it should be just a matter of using the free pathfinder conversion guide from paizo.

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:42 am
by Jester of the FoS
I've thought about doing one, but, with other writing I've been putting off (the next Fraternity Gaz, a edition changing adventure arc, school) I decided it would be too much on my plate. Maybe later, if no one else does.

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:34 pm
by Joël of the FoS
If you take the RL3e books and apply these rules to Pathfinder, it should work nicely, with may be a few things to change (sorcerer's bloodlines comes to mind)

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:44 pm
by Gonzoron of the FoS
Another minor issue would be "pathfinder-izing" the half-vistani

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:07 am
by Ravendragon
Gonzoron of the FoS wrote:Another minor issue would be "pathfinder-izing" the half-vistani
What would be the recommendation for this? I'm seriously considering making my first character one.

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:20 am
by The Giamarga
And Caliban, and full Vistani.

In the Mistfinder thread we talked about the caliban, and Tobias Blackburn mentioned that he is in the process of tweaking the half-vistani. He also posted lots of details about his PF calibans.

In the Vistani Racial traits thread I argued that the 3E version of half-vistani does not make that much sense in comparison to the 3E full vistani. Why do the half-breeds get skill/emphasis bonuses according to tribe/tasque, but the full vistani don't? When converting them both to PF i would fix that. Also John Mangrum posted his version of the 3.5 full vistani, complete with bonuses by tasque there.

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:27 am
by The Giamarga
The RL prestige classes should also be pathfinderized.

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:04 am
by Gonzoron of the FoS
The Giamarga wrote:The RL prestige classes should also be pathfinderized.
Most of them need to be upgraded to 3.5 first. :)

The Pickled Punk and others made a start of it here. Did we ever collect that into a netbook article?

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:31 am
by cure
Gonzoron of the FoS wrote:
The Giamarga wrote:The RL prestige classes should also be pathfinderized.
Most of them need to be upgraded to 3.5 first. :)

The Pickled Punk and others made a start of it here. Did we ever collect that into a netbook article?
Were that ever done, I have a couple ideas for cleaning up the Scholar Class with its irrational skill package. And the Scientist class needs massive, although sadly controversial, work.

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:56 am
by Dimitri Mazieres
Gonzoron of the FoS wrote:
The Giamarga wrote:The RL prestige classes should also be pathfinderized.
Most of them need to be upgraded to 3.5 first. :)

The Pickled Punk and others made a start of it here. Did we ever collect that into a netbook article?
And here is a lengthy discussion on updating/revising the Knight of Shadows PrC to 3.5.

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:00 pm
by The Giamarga
Gonzoron of the FoS wrote:
The Giamarga wrote:The RL prestige classes should also be pathfinderized.
Most of them need to be upgraded to 3.5 first. :)

The Pickled Punk and others made a start of it here. Did we ever collect that into a netbook article?
Yes, sort of. It's in the Mausoleum, under downloads.

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:12 am
by The Giamarga
The Giamarga wrote:The RL prestige classes should also be pathfinderized.
With the prestige classes Pathfinder went even farther than with the core classes in changing things. Take a look at the PF assassin or the PF duelist for example. No more spellcasting for the assassin, and a complete overhaul of the awkward 3.5 duelist powers. Plus more additional powers for both.

So keeping this in mind some of more problematic RL PrCs should be reworked completely for PF. This would be a great project for the community projects board. I'll have to make time to read through my just arrived Pathfinder core rules first though...

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:36 pm
by Dimitri Mazieres
The Giamarga wrote:So keeping this in mind some of more problematic RL PrCs should be reworked completely for PF. This would be a great project for the community projects board. I'll have to make time to read through my just arrived Pathfinder core rules first though...
Which wouldn't be half a bad thing, IMHO, even for 3.5. As much as the 3rd edition RL material was rich in fluff, the mechanics department left quite a bit to be desired. Take a look at VR Arsenal, for example. Excellent fluff, but there were a number of PrC that tried too hard to follow the spirit of 2nd Ed kits, making them less than optimal choices for 3e characters. Also, it could have used another round of editing. I remember at least a couple of PrC entries where the skills requirements were duplicated. And in Gaz II, Gondegal's stats even makes use of descriptions from the Knight of Shadows kit. Yes, the 2nd edition one. :?