Re: Zombie ants . . . possibly in a forest near you . . . .
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:10 am
by Lord_Pruitt
Kinda creepy. Makes me wonder if something like that could happen to humans.....
Re: Zombie ants . . . possibly in a forest near you . . . .
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:07 am
by HuManBing
I would suspect that sort of parasitism (neural invasion causing a change in behavior that benefits the parasite) is exponentially more difficult the more complex the host organism's brain is.
One example is a parasite that infects snails. It causes their eyestalks to bulge out and pulsate with colorful stripes, and it also causes them to ignore noontime sunlight and stay on the tops of leaves, when uninfected snails stay out of sight on the bottom. The change in behavior causes the infected snails to be easily visible to predatory birds, which then see their eyestalks pulsating and swoop down to eat them. The parasitic worm then finds its way into the bird's digestive tract where it can reproduce.
A human brain has so many different centers that control behavior, a parasite would have to be very sophisticated in order to cause the human to engage in behavior that reliably benefits the parasite.
This is assuming natural selection and evolution, of course. If you add in intelligent design (curses, evil spells, mad doctors' labs, etc.) then anything could be possible.
Re: Zombie ants . . . possibly in a forest near you . . . .
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:48 am
by Zettaijin
I wouldn't be surprised to hear of clandestine experimentations aiming to find mind controlling parasites tailored for humans. Not like we haven't been trying hard to find ways to control and manipulate others for ages now.
Re: Zombie ants . . . possibly in a forest near you . . . .
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:49 pm
by cure
Look up the dancing plague of Strasbourg as an essentially unexplained and possible, if unlikely, candidate.
Re: Zombie ants . . . possibly in a forest near you . . . .
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:01 am
by Lord_Pruitt
What better way for a mad scientist to experiment with an unsuspecting village of people????
Re: Zombie ants . . . possibly in a forest near you . . . .
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:59 pm
by Rotipher of the FoS
HuManBing wrote:A human brain has so many different centers that control behavior, a parasite would have to be very sophisticated in order to cause the human to engage in behavior that reliably benefits the parasite.
It would also require every human's brain to be wired exactly the same way, which is certainly not the case.
Some real-world parasites can and do affect human behavior, but only indirectly, by making you really really hungry (because they're mooching off your half-digested food), hypersensitive to light (because they're blocking your pupillary reflexes), too dizzy to walk well (because they're mucking with your inner ear), etc.
Re: Zombie ants . . . possibly in a forest near you . . . .
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:07 am
by Joël of the FoS
cure wrote:Look up the dancing plague of Strasbourg as an essentially unexplained and possible, if unlikely, candidate.
Woa, cool, never heard of that event before.
In RL: Revenge of the Richemulot Pied Pipper?
Joël
Re: Zombie ants . . . possibly in a forest near you . . . .
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:35 pm
by Brock Marsh Runoff
HuManBing wrote:
A human brain has so many different centers that control behavior, a parasite would have to be very sophisticated in order to cause the human to engage in behavior that reliably benefits the parasite.
The most sophisticated parasite of all...IS MAN
Kidding aside, cordyceps fungus is awesome. Check out David Attenborough's video:
Re: Zombie ants . . . possibly in a forest near you . . . .
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:06 pm
by HuManBing
Cordyceps fungus is indeed interesting. One of the Chinese strains of it has been shown to have some beneficial effects on counteracting the detrimental effects of irradiation (at least in mice): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cordyceps_ ... s_research
Re: Zombie ants . . . possibly in a forest near you . . . .
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:08 pm
by alhoon
Is it similar to very primitive form of zergs or I'm playing too much starcraft?