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		<title>Cure at 07:26, 29 April 2010</title>
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		<updated>2010-04-29T07:26:42Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;based on wiktionary, it seems all castles are fortresses, but not all fortresses are castles.  Don&amp;#039;t really know if we need both, though.  Can&amp;#039;t think of any non-castle fortresses in RL offhand.  I&amp;#039;m ok with just using castle.  -- [[User:Gonzoron|Gonzoron]] 01:59, 29 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;based on wiktionary, it seems all castles are fortresses, but not all fortresses are castles.  Don&amp;#039;t really know if we need both, though.  Can&amp;#039;t think of any non-castle fortresses in RL offhand.  I&amp;#039;m ok with just using castle.  -- [[User:Gonzoron|Gonzoron]] 01:59, 29 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;The low-proflie, star shaped fortications that Vauban (I think) conceived for the French to withstand canons are fortresses or at very least are fortifications but are not castles. Fortress is indeed a wider notion. But I cannot think of a case where the difference yields fruit in Ravenloft and I have no appetite to go add castle to every entry that currently is described as a fortress. I did toy with adding stronghold. But concluded that it caught very little that fortress didn&#039;t. But if we go with castle and merge fortress into, I think stronghold becomes necessary, as a well guild military garrison isn&#039;t a castle, but it might be loosely called a fotrtress, and it would certainly be a stronghold. For simplicities&#039; sake I would say that castle is not worth the bother. But if castle it is, we need a search replace for fortress to castle, then a weeding of the non castles, and then the addition of sttronghold. And while one is at it, every castle is a [[:Category:Fortification]], so that can be added too.[[User:Cure|Cure]] 07:26, 29 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Gonzoron at 01:59, 29 April 2010</title>
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		<updated>2010-04-29T01:59:44Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;How is [[:Category:Castle]] being defined over and against [[:Category:Fortress]], and do we need both?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;How is [[:Category:Castle]] being defined over and against [[:Category:Fortress]], and do we need both?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;based on wiktionary, it seems all castles are fortresses, but not all fortresses are castles.  Don&#039;t really know if we need both, though.  Can&#039;t think of any non-castle fortresses in RL offhand.  I&#039;m ok with just using castle.  -- [[User:Gonzoron|Gonzoron]] 01:59, 29 April 2010 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Cure: Created page with &#039;How is :Category:Castle being defined over and against :Category:Fortress, and do we need both?&#039;</title>
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		<updated>2010-04-28T20:44:00Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;#039;How is &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/Category:Castle&quot; class=&quot;mw-redirect&quot; title=&quot;Category:Castle&quot;&gt;Category:Castle&lt;/a&gt; being defined over and against &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/Category:Fortress&quot; title=&quot;Category:Fortress&quot;&gt;Category:Fortress&lt;/a&gt;, and do we need both?&amp;#039;&lt;/p&gt;
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