To convert every classes of Ravenloft in the V3.5 rules

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To convert every classes of Ravenloft in the V3.5 rules

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Hello Everybody !

First, I am sorry if my English is bad, I am french person, and it is famous lol, the French person speak English very bad !

I will be probably to game mastering to Ravenloft. I was a player and now I will become a gamemaster lol.

I have listed every classes of Ravenloft :

It is the list :

V3.0 and V3.5 :

core rulebook :
- Barbare
- Barde
- Druide
- Ensorceleur
- Guerrier
- Magicien
- Moine
- Paladin
- Prêtre
- Rôdeur
- Roublard

Classe de prestige :

- monster hunter :
- Beast-hunter : chasseur de lycanthropes et de changeformes
- Demon-hunter : chasseur de démons
- Ghost-hunter : chasseur de fantômes et d’esprits
- Vampire-hunter : chasseur de vampires, goules et autres morts-vivants
- Witch-hunter : chasseur de sorcières, ensorceleur, tout type de lanceur de sort et des créatures ayant du sang de fée

Gazetteer Volume I :

- Herald of Dawn

Gazetteer Volume III :

- Grimetrekker
- The Lamplighter
- Stage Magician

Gazetteer Volume IV :

- Court poisoner
- Moonchild

Gazetteer Volume V :
- Tepestani inquisitor
- Zelldrow

Van Richten’s Arsenal Volume I :

- Alchemical philosopher
- Anchorite of the Mists
- The Avenger
- Crypt raider
- Dirgist
- Guardian seeker
- Hallowed witch
- Knight of the Shadows
- Pistoleer
- Stygian attendant

Secrets of the Dread Realms :

- The Witch hunter

Dark Tales & Disturbing Legends :

- The Voodan

Heroes of Light :

- Anchorite inquisitor
- Anchorite wanderer
- Black powder avenger
- Blessed paladin
- Blessed defender
- Detective
- Dilettante
- Knight errant
- Metaphysician
- Scholar
- True innocent
- White arcanist

Champions of Darkness :

- Charlatan
- Dreamcaster
- Highway rider
- Manipulator
- Master of curses
- The Mesmerist
- Moon bane
- Night lord
- Propagandist
- Scourge
- Solitary outcast
- Worldbreaker

V2 :

Champions of the Mists :

- Accursed
- Cold one
- Eremite
- Fugitive
- Ghostwatcher
- The Green Hand
- Invisible
- Knight of the Shadows
- Monster Hunter
- Order of the Guardian
- Pistoleer
- Psychic
- Redeemed
- Spiritualist

Domains of Dread :

- Warriors
- Fighters
- Wizards
- Priests
- Rogues
- Psionicists
- Rangers
- Avengers
- Mages
- Elementalists
- Arcanists
- Clerics
- Anchorites
- Thieves
- Gypsies

And I have questions. It is difficult to convert classes of V2 to V3.5 and classes of V3.0 to V3.5?

My idea is to create a file which listed every classes which is converted with the V3.5

Do you have advices to give me?

Thank you very much !

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Re: To convert every classes of Ravenloft in the V3.5 rules

Post by The Giamarga »

Nikolai, the core classes are in the 3.5 SRD or PHB.

Generally conversion from 3.0 to 3.5 is not too hard to do, though you have to be quite familiar with both systems to be aware of what design paradigms have changed. Converting from 2E to 3E is much more complicated though. 3E is designed to be much more flexible and you have many different ways to translate 2E kits or classes into 3E. Out of a 2E character kit or class version, you could make a feat or two, alternate class features, a variant base class, a prestige class... Again you have to be aware of some of the underlying principles in 3E design and not stick too closely to the 2E version. The best example for this are the existing base classes. The 3E Rogue differs quite a bit from the 2E Thief and can hardly be called a truly faithful conversion.


As for the Ravenloft specific prestige classes check out the "Prestige Class Conversions: 3rd ed. to 3.5 ed." download here in the Mausoleum. It is incomplete though. And some of the 3E prestige classes are plain horrible from a design perspective and probably should be reworked completely from scratch. The Mausoleum also has several useful Excel indexes of feats, kits, prestige classes, and more btw.

The 2E kits from Champions of the mists should not all be converted into base/alternate or prestige classes imho. Some of the material there has found it's way in to 3E already in the form of feats (the Unseen feat for example from - i believe - CoD, or the Cold One feat), others have been loosely converted/reworked into Prestige classes (Knight of the Shadows).

The 2E classes from Domains of Dread range from slightly reworked baseclasses (Fighter gaining Bravery which in 3E should be expressed by taking the appropriate feats), to completely new classes (gypsy class, anchorite). The Anchorite has been converted in different ways into 3E: there are Ezran domains, and several anchorite prestige classes though they all have their design problems. The Arcanist has been horribly converted into the White Arcanist prestige class though that one definitely needs to be reworked completely. Or you could simply use the Archivist class. The avenger has been converted into a 3.0 prestige class already. Elemtalist wizards have certainly been adapted in 3E somewhere.

The gypsy base class is missing completely in 3E though and would make a great QtR article imho as would a Baal Verzi version of the Assassin prestige class and a reworked Arcanist.
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The class names are cooler in French.

Is Rodeur the ranger and Roublard the rogue, then?
Roublard means something like 'tricky person', doesn't it?
I dunno how to type the cicronflexe in rodeur.
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ewancummins wrote:The class names are cooler in French.

Is Rodeur the ranger and Roublard the rogue, then?
Roublard means something like 'tricky person', doesn't it?
I dunno how to type the cicronflexe in rodeur.
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Roublard in french D&D is indeed the Rogue or Thief if you prefer.

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In a 3.0 to 3.5 conversion, classes with the alchemy skill need a class ability that enables them to use the craft alchemcy skill in the pursuit of their matters related to their class without have spellcasting as prerequisite. For example, the Black Powder Avenger can make gunpowder and the Court Poisoner can make alchemical poisons without having to take a level of wizard.
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Yeap, they sound better in French.
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Hello everybody !

Sorry ewancummins, Indeed the "rodeur" is ranger in french and the "roublard" is rogue or thief in french.

If you want :

- Barbare = barbare
- Barde = bard
- Druide = druid
- Ensorceleur = sorcerer
- Guerrier = warrior
- Magicien = wizard or magician
- Moine = monk
- Paladin = paladin
- Prêtre = priest
- Rôdeur = ranger
- Roublard = rogue or thief

I am sorry I forgot to translate into English. I took the list of the core rulebook 3.0 translated into french lol.
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I think you meant Barbarian. when you said Barbare. :D

No worries, it seems like we can understand you quite well even if a few sentances are off.

Though im kind curious how you actually "say" those words in french. I may have to use a wee bit of french in my game.

Do you say Roublard like..... "Row" "Bla" "Ard?" Or something close to that? o.O' so different from the word Rogue. xD
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ah oki lol

Thank you Zilfer !

roublard is pronounced in french r = "r", ou = "who", bl ="bl", ard ="art" but not pronounce the "d" and the "t" of "art"

I don't know if I make myself clear ? lol
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