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Beats me, although I did always wonder that too...., doesnt stop him racking up a hefty bodycount though.
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The Lords of the Night Side of the earth, in Roger Zelazny's Jack of Shadows. They're almost like darklords already, actually.
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Drinnik Shoehorn wrote:Freddy Krueger is another obvious choice, even if the Nightmare Man is a close parallel anyway.
Although his name always seems to crop up on these lists, I'd personally vote against Freddy as a darklord, even if the Nightmare Court didn't exist. However cool the concept of a nightmare-haunting serial killer might've been, his actual personality is too caught up in snide pop-culture references and the mockery of teen stereotypes for Krueger to fit in anywhere except 1980s Suburbia. Moving him to Ravenloft would rob the guy of his prized bad jokes, while clashing with the melodramatic tone of the game-setting. :-/
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Rotipher of the FoS wrote:
Drinnik Shoehorn wrote:Freddy Krueger is another obvious choice, even if the Nightmare Man is a close parallel anyway.
Although his name always seems to crop up on these lists, I'd personally vote against Freddy as a darklord, even if the Nightmare Court didn't exist. However cool the concept of a nightmare-haunting serial killer might've been, his actual personality is too caught up in snide pop-culture references and the mockery of teen stereotypes for Krueger to fit in anywhere except 1980s Suburbia. Moving him to Ravenloft would rob the guy of his prized bad jokes, while clashing with the melodramatic tone of the game-setting. :-/
Maybe narrow it to Freddy circa the first film and New Nightmare.
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I'd say more of making him a Boogeyman or a Nightmare Court member.
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There is also the fact that he clearly revels in his fate rather than suffering from it as do most classic Darklords.
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Ah, but this is Ravenloft. The DP can always find a way to make their pet villains suffer, even while giving themeverything they might have once wished for.
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How about giving him a branch in the Nightmare Realms with his curse either forever in the Nightmare Man's shadow (he's either seen as the nightmare man in disguise or some lacky), feeling a pang of guilt for those he hurts or have the souls he captures no longer become his?
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Hugh Jackman's character, Robert Angier from the movie The Prestige.

'Murder' Legendre, Bela Lugosi's Character from the film White Zombie.

Eli, the young vampire from Let the Right One In

Randal Flagg aka Walter O'Dim aka The Dark Man aka The Walkin' Dude plus many other incarnations usually with the initial R.F. from at least 9 different Stephen King novels including The Dark Tower series, The Stand and Eyes of the Dragon.

The comic book character Doctor Doom. Although the sometimes campy-ness
of the character would have to be stripped away.
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BigBadQDaddy wrote:Randal Flagg aka Walter O'Dim aka The Dark Man aka The Walkin' Dude plus many other incarnations usually with the initial R.F. from at least 9 different Stephen King novels including The Dark Tower series, The Stand and Eyes of the Dragon.
I think he's more like a fiend, really--the Gentleman Caller's working-class counterpart, perhaps.
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Let the right one in reminds me of a more adult version of The little vampire, by Angela Sommer-Bodenburg.

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Come to think of it, that series might be interesting to adapt to Ravenloft. It'd have to be handled with care, though.
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Nathan of the FoS wrote:
BigBadQDaddy wrote:Randal Flagg aka Walter O'Dim aka The Dark Man aka The Walkin' Dude plus many other incarnations usually with the initial R.F. from at least 9 different Stephen King novels including The Dark Tower series, The Stand and Eyes of the Dragon.
I think he's more like a fiend, really--the Gentleman Caller's working-class counterpart, perhaps.
I would agree with you except that it seems as though he already has a curse, and that is he is doomed to ultimate failure. No matter how far he seems to get in his schemes he ends up losing, and dying, only to be reborn again somewhere else with the same insatiable ambition.
Also, King has stated that the Dark man is no devil. He is merely a magician who personifies absolute evil.
I do think he would need to have his own pocket dimension that follows him around though, sort of like how the Carnival has one.
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Oh, now. One of old Randy's great strengths was his ability to escape and cause a bad mess somewhere else, where people hadn't even heard of him. If he became a Darklord, part of his curse could be that he was well-known, and that he couldn't get out. Constantly faced with the consequences of his actions no matter what he did, completely unable to escape? That'd be torment to him, methinks.
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Pic is marginally related. Not everybody will get what's going on but those who do will probably lol and say "wut?".

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Rock wrote:Oh, now. One of old Randy's great strengths was his ability to escape and cause a bad mess somewhere else, where people hadn't even heard of him. If he became a Darklord, part of his curse could be that he was well-known, and that he couldn't get out. Constantly faced with the consequences of his actions no matter what he did, completely unable to escape? That'd be torment to him, methinks.
I always got the impression that he kept dying and getting reincarnated somewhere else. For example at the end of the Gunslinger, you see his bones.
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