how's Grimm?

[eidolon]

I crossed Grimm RPG d20 on the net and seen a thread about a spinn-off on this forum. Fairy-tales gone bad sounds nice to me. Has anyone played the game, read it and used it in something else (Ravenloft domain ruled by Rapunzel)? Give me some short ideas on feel and material of teh RPG please.

Thanks

[order99]

I've got a copy,it's pretty good...
Grimm is currently a D20 supplement(I hear FFG is making a full-featured non-D20 version, but i've no idea as to the release date). Grimm assumes you have at least a D&D 3.5 Player's handbook, but you could easily get by with D20 Modern, D&D 3.0, or the D20 Ravenloft or Masque of the Red Death hardcovers.
The premise of Grimm is that all of the tales we have heard as children are true, taking place in a realm we can't normally access.Children however(who percieve things we no longer can) sometimes fall through into this realm-and there's a world of difference between reading one of those stories for entertainment and LIVING one...
Grimm assumes the PC's will be children. A few archetypes (the Dreamer, the Jock, the Outcast and so forth) give a decent set of abilities-the game only covers Lvl 1-6, good for a few mini-series or a movie trilogies' worth of play. Skills and Feats are tailored to the setting,gameplay(combat especially) is simplified.
One idea in Grimm that I particularly love is Imagination Points-all Children PC's have them in varied amounts, and they can be spent to control/change the setting in minor ways. An item may be found, tightly tied bonds may loosen, a guard might glance the other way, etc.

All in all, not a bad little Minigame, and a good resource to use for any D20 homebrews...

[Jack of Tears]

>>I hear FFG is making a full-featured non-D20 version, but i've no idea as to the release date<<


Neither do they. They've been pushing it back for something like two years, a few months at a time. Now they're saying first quarter 2007 I believe ... but I'll not hold my breath.

[Jester of the FoS]

I had mixed feelings about Grimm.

The ideas were good but the character development seemed rigid with only a single possible outcome. And many of the NPCs were comical more than frightening. Instead of dark relections or subtle twists they just went all-out bad, and even then they ignored the most obvious and coolest choices for monster-fying the characters. Red Riding Hood a vampire? She'd be so much better as a werewolf after the attack from Big Bad W. Snow White as a plant? She sleeps in coffins, has a step-mom that wants her heart carved out, has skin as white as freshly fallen snow, can seduce woodsmen and dwarves with a glance and is betrayed by a mirror. She's so a vampire!
And the authors seemed to put more emphasis on Mother Goose and nursery rhymes than actual fairy tales; you'd think they'd crack open the Brother's book a few times.

[CorvusCornix]

Snow White as a plant? She sleeps in coffins, has a step-mom that wants her heart carved out, has skin as white as freshly fallen snow, can seduce woodsmen and dwarves with a glance and is betrayed by a mirror. She's so a vampire!

You DO know the short story "Snow, Glass, Apples" by Neil Gaiman, don't you? If not, you should definitely read it, it's VERY evil, you can find it here: http://www.holycow.com/dreaming/stories/snow.html

[Brandi]

[Snow White]'s so a vampire!

'S been done. (A pretty good anthology, BTW; people here would probably like Lee's take on the Pied Piper and Cinderella very much.)

[Jack of Tears]

I'll have to look for that. It's fairly difficult finding anything by Lee which isn't a children's book - most of it seems to be out of print.

[Jester of the FoS]

Yes I read the Gaiman story, but my take on White predates that...