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Ultramyth · Post by **Ultramyth** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 4:57 pm

Discussed in a previous thread ideas for a netbook. I'm detailing Ludendorf right now for my personal campaign, and reworking the original city map, using the information presented in Gazetteer II.

There are maps like this of many of the Core's cities. Anyone else want to volunteer?

Here's the map I have so far (currently reworking it):

Joël of the FoS · Post by **Joël of the FoS** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:02 pm

Superb! What were the visual sources to do this map?

Coan · Post by **Coan** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:47 pm

NOOOOOO not imperial system -its non scientific ways must be erased from this world.

P.S. Nice looking map.

Wiccy of the Fraternity · Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:16 pm

I'd also like to know what you used to make the map.

I am also glad you used the imperial system as it helps sit better in the campaign setting itself

alhoon · Post by **alhoon** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:36 pm

NIce map! I hope it will end up as you expect it!

Troile · Post by **Troile** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:01 pm

Anyone have any info on Mordentshire?

I <3 maps...but am horrible at making them.

Jester of the FoS · Post by **Jester of the FoS** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:12 pm

For Mordenshire click here. It comes with a complete map and write-up IIRC. Plus some other fun additions such as houses.

For the ever-delayed Ravenloft Module Project (RMP1) in it's super-secret hidden forum here we're setting it in Lechberg and I have a handful of maps for that (including Degravo and some other assorted buildings). So I've done alot of mapping. That said I'm still in awe over the above, very very nice.

Ultramyth · Post by **Ultramyth** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:07 am

That's a 1/4 scale of the full sized map.

The imperial system/details is left in from the old map. This is literally a reworking of the Ludendorf map that I think was a part of a poster map in the black box. I'm not sure, because I downloaded it, and the others, when they were made available on the Kargatane website many years ago now.

Basically, I took the original into my favourite paint program (paint shop pro 7.04), grayscaled the image, and started a number of vector layers, for roads, walls, buildings and temporary text until the locations can be numbered.

Then it was a case of taking to the original layer with a smudge brush, which makes the elevation look pretty cool, and slightly more realistic. I think it also ties in well with the current image of Ravenloft. You can see down on the south bank of the Black River that I've left it for now.

The scale was left in from the old map, but because I don't have the original, I really don't know how big 500 feet is on it (I can't measure it in inches).

Those who are imperially challenged, 150 metres is approximately 5 feet.

Don Fernando · Post by **Don Fernando** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:06 am

Excelent Map, Great work.

But out of curiosity (I do not mean to be rude with this question)

If you used the Black Box City maps for your version, isn't it forbidden, in terms of copyright, to modify any material owned by some company?
I ask this because I also want to contribute to the Net Book, and certainly I will be using those maps. Anyone have an Idea?

Respectufuly

Drinnik Shoehorn · Post by **Drinnik Shoehorn** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:40 am

Ultramyth wrote:That's a 1/4 scale of the full sized map.

The imperial system/details is left in from the old map. This is literally a reworking of the Ludendorf map that I think was a part of a poster map in the black box. I'm not sure, because I downloaded it, and the others, when they were made available on the Kargatane website many years ago now.

Basically, I took the original into my favourite paint program (paint shop pro 7.04), grayscaled the image, and started a number of vector layers, for roads, walls, buildings and temporary text until the locations can be numbered.

Then it was a case of taking to the original layer with a smudge brush, which makes the elevation look pretty cool, and slightly more realistic. I think it also ties in well with the current image of Ravenloft. You can see down on the south bank of the Black River that I've left it for now.

The scale was left in from the old map, but because I don't have the original, I really don't know how big 500 feet is on it (I can't measure it in inches).

Those who are imperially challenged, 150 metres is approximately 5 feet.

Um, not it's not. 1m equals 2.5 feet. So, 150m equals 375 feet.

Catman Jim · Post by **Catman Jim** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:14 am

Drinnik Shoehorn wrote:Um, not it's not. 1m equals 2.5 feet. So, 150m equals 375 feet.

Not in my book. 1 meter is 3.28 feet (1 yard is three feet is .91 meters), so 150 meters is 492 feet. Ultramyth must have meant to round up to the 500 feet he mentioned, and missed typing two zeros at the end.

Drinnik Shoehorn · Post by **Drinnik Shoehorn** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:07 am

Catman Jim wrote:
Drinnik Shoehorn wrote:Um, not it's not. 1m equals 2.5 feet. So, 150m equals 375 feet.
Not in my book. 1 meter is 3.28 feet (1 yard is three feet is .91 meters), so 150 meters is 492 feet. Ultramyth must have meant to round up to the 500 feet he mentioned, and missed typing two zeros at the end.

My bad. It's 1 inch equals 2.5cm. 1m is 3ft approx. I'm not used to the imperial system. When my mum tells me the temperature she uses farenheit and I have to ask what it is in real money.

Jasper · Post by **Jasper** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:32 am

Metric? Bah! Who needs metric! My car gets ten furlongs to the hogshead and dag nabit thats what I like!

Ultramyth · Post by **Ultramyth** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:13 am

Drinnik Shoehorn wrote: Um, not it's not. 1m equals 2.5 feet. So, 150m equals 375 feet.

1" = 2.54 cm
12"/1' = 30.48 cm
5' = 1.524 m/152.4 cm

I don't know who taught you either the imperial or the metric system, but I assure you, 1.5 metres is the closest approximation to 5 feet you're going to find.

500'/5 = 100, 100x1.524 = 152.4 m or roughly, for game purposes, 150 metres.

Edit: Removed remark when I saw the corectional post. I'll leave the hard data in there though for future reference.

Ultramyth · Post by **Ultramyth** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:17 am

Don Fernando wrote:Excelent Map, Great work.

But out of curiosity (I do not mean to be rude with this question)

If you used the Black Box City maps for your version, isn't it forbidden, in terms of copyright, to modify any material owned by some company?
I ask this because I also want to contribute to the Net Book, and certainly I will be using those maps. Anyone have an Idea?

Respectufuly

I believe technically any work that difers from the original by more than 15%, or in a seperate medium can be regarded as the intellectual property of the new artist (not that I'm claiming it).

Especially as it is in a new medium to the original. For example, if you make a copy of the mona lisa, the painting remains public domain because the Mona Lisa is public domain. You take a photograph of it, and it's your intellectual property.

Call it appropriation, it's a different image. So I don't think there will be a problem.

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