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Cities of the Core

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 4:57 pm
by Ultramyth
Discussed in a previous thread ideas for a netbook. I'm detailing Ludendorf right now for my personal campaign, and reworking the original city map, using the information presented in Gazetteer II.

There are maps like this of many of the Core's cities. Anyone else want to volunteer?

Here's the map I have so far (currently reworking it):

Image

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:02 pm
by Joël of the FoS
Superb! What were the visual sources to do this map?

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:47 pm
by Coan
NOOOOOO not imperial system -its non scientific ways must be erased from this world.

P.S. Nice looking map.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:16 pm
by Wiccy of the Fraternity
I'd also like to know what you used to make the map.

I am also glad you used the imperial system as it helps sit better in the campaign setting itself :)

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:36 pm
by alhoon
NIce map! I hope it will end up as you expect it!

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:01 pm
by Troile
Anyone have any info on Mordentshire?

I <3 maps...but am horrible at making them.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:12 pm
by Jester of the FoS
For Mordenshire click here. It comes with a complete map and write-up IIRC. Plus some other fun additions such as houses.

For the ever-delayed Ravenloft Module Project (RMP1) in it's super-secret hidden forum here we're setting it in Lechberg and I have a handful of maps for that (including Degravo and some other assorted buildings). So I've done alot of mapping. That said I'm still in awe over the above, very very nice.

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:07 am
by Ultramyth
That's a 1/4 scale of the full sized map.

The imperial system/details is left in from the old map. This is literally a reworking of the Ludendorf map that I think was a part of a poster map in the black box. I'm not sure, because I downloaded it, and the others, when they were made available on the Kargatane website many years ago now.

Basically, I took the original into my favourite paint program (paint shop pro 7.04), grayscaled the image, and started a number of vector layers, for roads, walls, buildings and temporary text until the locations can be numbered.

Then it was a case of taking to the original layer with a smudge brush, which makes the elevation look pretty cool, and slightly more realistic. I think it also ties in well with the current image of Ravenloft. You can see down on the south bank of the Black River that I've left it for now.

The scale was left in from the old map, but because I don't have the original, I really don't know how big 500 feet is on it (I can't measure it in inches).

Those who are imperially challenged, 150 metres is approximately 5 feet.

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:06 am
by Don Fernando
Excelent Map, Great work.

But out of curiosity (I do not mean to be rude with this question)

If you used the Black Box City maps for your version, isn't it forbidden, in terms of copyright, to modify any material owned by some company?
I ask this because I also want to contribute to the Net Book, and certainly I will be using those maps. Anyone have an Idea?

Respectufuly

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:40 am
by Drinnik Shoehorn
Ultramyth wrote:That's a 1/4 scale of the full sized map.

The imperial system/details is left in from the old map. This is literally a reworking of the Ludendorf map that I think was a part of a poster map in the black box. I'm not sure, because I downloaded it, and the others, when they were made available on the Kargatane website many years ago now.

Basically, I took the original into my favourite paint program (paint shop pro 7.04), grayscaled the image, and started a number of vector layers, for roads, walls, buildings and temporary text until the locations can be numbered.

Then it was a case of taking to the original layer with a smudge brush, which makes the elevation look pretty cool, and slightly more realistic. I think it also ties in well with the current image of Ravenloft. You can see down on the south bank of the Black River that I've left it for now.

The scale was left in from the old map, but because I don't have the original, I really don't know how big 500 feet is on it (I can't measure it in inches).

Those who are imperially challenged, 150 metres is approximately 5 feet.
Um, not it's not. 1m equals 2.5 feet. So, 150m equals 375 feet.

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:14 am
by Catman Jim
Drinnik Shoehorn wrote:Um, not it's not. 1m equals 2.5 feet. So, 150m equals 375 feet.
Not in my book. 1 meter is 3.28 feet (1 yard is three feet is .91 meters), so 150 meters is 492 feet. Ultramyth must have meant to round up to the 500 feet he mentioned, and missed typing two zeros at the end. :?

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:07 am
by Drinnik Shoehorn
Catman Jim wrote:
Drinnik Shoehorn wrote:Um, not it's not. 1m equals 2.5 feet. So, 150m equals 375 feet.
Not in my book. 1 meter is 3.28 feet (1 yard is three feet is .91 meters), so 150 meters is 492 feet. Ultramyth must have meant to round up to the 500 feet he mentioned, and missed typing two zeros at the end. :?
My bad. It's 1 inch equals 2.5cm. 1m is 3ft approx. I'm not used to the imperial system. When my mum tells me the temperature she uses farenheit and I have to ask what it is in real money.

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:32 am
by Jasper
Metric? Bah! Who needs metric! My car gets ten furlongs to the hogshead and dag nabit thats what I like!

:)

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:13 am
by Ultramyth
Drinnik Shoehorn wrote: Um, not it's not. 1m equals 2.5 feet. So, 150m equals 375 feet.
1" = 2.54 cm
12"/1' = 30.48 cm
5' = 1.524 m/152.4 cm

I don't know who taught you either the imperial or the metric system, but I assure you, 1.5 metres is the closest approximation to 5 feet you're going to find.

500'/5 = 100, 100x1.524 = 152.4 m or roughly, for game purposes, 150 metres.

Edit: Removed remark when I saw the corectional post. I'll leave the hard data in there though for future reference.

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:17 am
by Ultramyth
Don Fernando wrote:Excelent Map, Great work.

But out of curiosity (I do not mean to be rude with this question)

If you used the Black Box City maps for your version, isn't it forbidden, in terms of copyright, to modify any material owned by some company?
I ask this because I also want to contribute to the Net Book, and certainly I will be using those maps. Anyone have an Idea?

Respectufuly
I believe technically any work that difers from the original by more than 15%, or in a seperate medium can be regarded as the intellectual property of the new artist (not that I'm claiming it).

Especially as it is in a new medium to the original. For example, if you make a copy of the mona lisa, the painting remains public domain because the Mona Lisa is public domain. You take a photograph of it, and it's your intellectual property.

Call it appropriation, it's a different image. So I don't think there will be a problem.